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RAF planes 'grounded' after 'in-flight issue
BBC report: The RAF has "grounded" its fleet of military Voyager transport planes following, what the Ministry of Defence calls an "in-flight issue" .
The BBC has been told a Voyager carrying British troops back to Afghanistan dropped a few thousand feet while in Turkish airspace.
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BBC News - RAF planes 'grounded' after 'in-flight issue'
The BBC has been told a Voyager carrying British troops back to Afghanistan dropped a few thousand feet while in Turkish airspace.
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BBC News - RAF planes 'grounded' after 'in-flight issue'
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Rule one glad the pax are ok, ish.
Rule two all eggs in over expensive basket means much egg on face as well as hat when issue bites you on the bum
Rule two all eggs in over expensive basket means much egg on face as well as hat when issue bites you on the bum
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Military Aircraft Register only
The Voyager on the Civilian Aircraft Register is apparently not grounded. That is the one that does the twice weekly airbridge BZZ to ASI and MPN. What is the difference? Refuelling pods?
I do wonder if, when those bright-eyed beancounters and marketing young turks decided on Airtanker as a name, they even considered what the brutal and licentious aircrew might make of it at the first sign of a cockup.
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The Voyager on the Civilian Aircraft Register is apparently not grounded. That is the one that does the twice weekly airbridge BZZ to ASI and MPN. What is the difference? Refuelling pods?
The Mil registered ac have different software to include AAR calculations, so it could be particular to those ac.
If Airbus Mil ground the G-reg fleet as well, then that's a tacit admission of a wider problem (Quantas QF72?) and your share price takes a hit...you choose
The Mil registered ac have different software to include AAR calculations, so it could be particular to those ac.
Whereas the A310MRTT had a specifically mandated requirement for the Mission System to be standalone and emphatically not to be capable of interfering with the (non-FBW) core aircraft software. As a result, it works well - as does the A310MRTT, of course.
The A330MRTT has, as I understand it, a modified AFS whereas the 'green' civil A330 aircraft operated by AirTanker are simply normal A330-243 aircraft painted grey.
If only Airbus Military had taken a leaf out of Airbus (Hamburg)'s book and simply converted the A330 to include minimum necessary modifications (such as the A310 Mission System) - preferably NOT in Spain, the RAF would by now have had a more reliable, simpler and more effective tanker. But someone let clever-devil engineering geeks loose on the design and the current bolleaux is but one result....
It will be very interesting to learn how software assurance will be provided to MAA concerning the audit trail of the A330 Mission System if/when it is ever considered ready....
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Correct me if I'm wrong but Airbus/Airbus Military have not grounded the Voyager Fleet. The RAF have. As far as I am aware, the other nations flying the MRTT are still operating.
I've not been involved with AirTanker for a number of years, but the original intension was to modify all the aircraft and then remove (de-role) the military equipment for those on the civil register.
If the civvy version is still flying, has it undergone the conversion or is it an 'original' A330?
If the civvy version is still flying, has it undergone the conversion or is it an 'original' A330?
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The vicious rumour mill at BZN was 11000 ft/min - lost 8000ft over 45 seconds before the handling pilot pulled himself off the cockpit ceiling and managed to regain control.
It's a rumour, but is certainly persistent.
Similar rate of descent to that of Air France.
It's a rumour, but is certainly persistent.
Similar rate of descent to that of Air France.
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before the handling pilot pulled himself off the cockpit ceiling and managed to regain control.
(Although I've no doubt the rumours are just that)
