UK military cuts, fear not ..
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UK military cuts, fear not ..
.. the British Super Soldier is here!
Superstrong, telepathic - the bionic soldiers of the future: How radical technology could transform British troops within 30 years
High-tech implants in brains could turn square-bashing squaddies into super-intelligent man-machines
Ministry of Defence report says 'augmented’ soldiers could even have bodies that self-repair wounds
Superstrong, telepathic - the bionic soldiers of the future | Mail Online
Superstrong, telepathic - the bionic soldiers of the future: How radical technology could transform British troops within 30 years
High-tech implants in brains could turn square-bashing squaddies into super-intelligent man-machines
Ministry of Defence report says 'augmented’ soldiers could even have bodies that self-repair wounds
Superstrong, telepathic - the bionic soldiers of the future | Mail Online
Apart from some of the wilder interpretations by the journo, this is all VERY old hat. It is pretty much based on the US's presentation to the ISSC of 2001. Then they discovered they were years behind the UK and cut their work back.... What is really worrying is if this is MoD's current thinking.
Some citizen Army that would be, imagine the Army Careers Officer visiting the upcoming School Leavers explaining that once accepted there will be some Brain surgery to look forward to first of all together with various other surgical implants and removal of bits and pieces of you which the Army will need replaced. You'll never be the same again!
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As usual some of it will never materialise but then who would have suggested that we would have had mobile phones, personal computers, stealth, drones etc 20 years ago.
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Threads need combining. 95% commonality!
If only we could replace civil servants with some sort of bionic, non-workshy, non- clock watching, level shouldered, non-whinging humanoid device
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Salad Dodger,
I find it so sad that you think like that.
Not all us simple servants were like that. I must admit I did come across a few that matched your stereo type. I was certaily not one of them.
I came accross all of the comparisons in my 30+ years. An SA 80 because they won't work and you can't fire them.
Those at the DRA - pre Q2 "Dont Rush Around"
Not allowed to look out of the windows in the morning- to give us something to do in the afternoon.
I kind of share your sentiments. the pitty is that those who fit your bill remain in post because they could not make it on the outside. I do wonder how many actually get found out and dismissed. How many get put on "Restoring efficiency" When I tried to get rid of some of mine the HR dept, particularly when it was PPPA advised against because they could not cope with the admin burden.
One thing that really troubled me was having to accept a new staff member on redeployment because it took more effort to declare them as unsuitable, particularly during the recruitment ban. It really is a shame that there were no forced redundancies. I figure most, but not all, in the redeployment pool are dead wood. Any good ones would have been snapped up.
Having read the stuff on Pprune and spoken to ex colleagues I am as well out of it.
I find it so sad that you think like that.
Not all us simple servants were like that. I must admit I did come across a few that matched your stereo type. I was certaily not one of them.
I came accross all of the comparisons in my 30+ years. An SA 80 because they won't work and you can't fire them.
Those at the DRA - pre Q2 "Dont Rush Around"
Not allowed to look out of the windows in the morning- to give us something to do in the afternoon.
I kind of share your sentiments. the pitty is that those who fit your bill remain in post because they could not make it on the outside. I do wonder how many actually get found out and dismissed. How many get put on "Restoring efficiency" When I tried to get rid of some of mine the HR dept, particularly when it was PPPA advised against because they could not cope with the admin burden.
One thing that really troubled me was having to accept a new staff member on redeployment because it took more effort to declare them as unsuitable, particularly during the recruitment ban. It really is a shame that there were no forced redundancies. I figure most, but not all, in the redeployment pool are dead wood. Any good ones would have been snapped up.
Having read the stuff on Pprune and spoken to ex colleagues I am as well out of it.
Yeah. The vast majority of the CS guys working within the MoD, HQs, etc., are bang on side. They represent us in the way they are required to do and mostly save us from our selves. When the Mil guys need to understand what the central Government issues are, the CS people are ones we turn to for advice. Does anyone think they're all spies for Sir Humphrey? They bring their own specialist knowledge to the party.
And what about the PAs, and secretaries? Not highly paid people, but massive supporters of what our senior people are doing.
No, I think there is a lot of unnecessary judgement going on by people that don't see what the CSs do for us. Why do I know that? Because I used to make the same generalizations myself.
Are the old Handbrake House military personnel so much better. Jobsworth?
That is all.
And what about the PAs, and secretaries? Not highly paid people, but massive supporters of what our senior people are doing.
No, I think there is a lot of unnecessary judgement going on by people that don't see what the CSs do for us. Why do I know that? Because I used to make the same generalizations myself.
Are the old Handbrake House military personnel so much better. Jobsworth?
That is all.
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You're probably both right. The majority of the civil servants aren't bad, but unfortunately I have seen far too many that are. Perhaps not all of those criteria at the same time, but usually at least one.
I wonder what the split would be between the good and bad, about 80:20 ?
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I wonder what the split would be between the good and bad, about 80:20 ?
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Aren't bad. I know CS guys that saved us from so many disasters. I would say there are CS guys that are outstanding. As for the "bad" ones, maybe there are, I don't know, but it's like me noticing that every Harrier pilot it totally up himself. Maybe I only noticed the few that were.
Or maybe...
Or maybe...
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80/20
Yep, about 80 good to 20 bad. I consider myself to have been in the best 5% as evidenced by my accelerated promotions, commendations, performance pay and special bonus payments, particularly in my first 25 years. I became too much the rebel and feather ruffler in my last 5. Brought about by poor Mil and CS leadership.
Worst influence was the Mil guys (Army and RAF) who came in to make a name for themselves and leave me to clear up the mess for the next year or more. The sad thing was they finished up in Handbrake House and given greater influnce to mess up. Many of the good ones saw the writting on the wall and banged out.
My exit interview with D AS would have been entertaining had I been afforded the opotunity!
Courtney - I don't mind if you put the spelin rite. It's past my bed time!
Worst influence was the Mil guys (Army and RAF) who came in to make a name for themselves and leave me to clear up the mess for the next year or more. The sad thing was they finished up in Handbrake House and given greater influnce to mess up. Many of the good ones saw the writting on the wall and banged out.
My exit interview with D AS would have been entertaining had I been afforded the opotunity!
Courtney - I don't mind if you put the spelin rite. It's past my bed time!
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Back to the OP, are these implants from the brains we have been storing from SOs since the 60s?
Something out of a Dale Brown book starting with Tin Man (sort of sequel to STORMING HEAVEN ) then a couple of other books where all personnel of the High Advanced Weapons Centre -HAWC and Dreamland were surgically installed with a little biochip that acted as a communicator as in even if they were without mobile phones or communciations, trapped, imprisoned in the middle of nowhere they could shout literally into the air for help or be communicated to from hq.
This also reminded me of the concluding chapter of Airland Battle 2000 by Christy Campbell written in the mid to late 80s. Whereby it was said that a UK company was researching a Soldier 2000 equipped with a lightweight kevlar all in one suit with added NBC protection, armoured helmet and visor with eyes up display and lightweight bergen / backpack with twin vertical launch anti armour missiles and an advanced automated rifle with laser and night vision.
This also reminded me of the concluding chapter of Airland Battle 2000 by Christy Campbell written in the mid to late 80s. Whereby it was said that a UK company was researching a Soldier 2000 equipped with a lightweight kevlar all in one suit with added NBC protection, armoured helmet and visor with eyes up display and lightweight bergen / backpack with twin vertical launch anti armour missiles and an advanced automated rifle with laser and night vision.
As usual some of it will never materialise but then who would have suggested that we would have had mobile phones, personal computers, stealth, drones etc 20 years ago.
All these things existed 20 years ago Sir, Mobile phones were a rich man's gimmic as were Laptops, stealth existed - F117, had been in action in the first Gulf War, the B2 was flying and drones have existed since the Second World War.
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