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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 08:53
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I actually asked you to go away
You are right.

Maybe I should go and write about your hypocrisy on my blog. And maybe someone from my 700.000 readers signs your petition.
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 09:22
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User CP -> Edit Ignore List

It's a relieve!

Phew, yes it is! Thanks
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 12:32
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700,000 hits doesn't mean 700,000 readers love.
Well, do you want me to go away or did you fall in love with me?

Counter on the Wordpress doesn't count well. Number of hits is around 900.000 (approaching one million), number of readers is around 700.000.

I got hundreds of emails from people with their detailed descriptions of experience in EK. As I am a professional HR manager (with a corporate experience), this really does make me an expert.


That is what we are trying to do here on a PILOTS forum: have our voices
heard. Still not sure why you are here or what you hope to prove.
Well, indeed, I didn't want to leave more than one comment in this thread, but then you started with all of your rationalisations and defence mechanisms so I just stayed. You invited me in a way.

And your hypocrisy is really fun to reveal. People who complain on a lousy treatment in UAE are behaving EXACTLY like the managers they are complaining on. And that wouldn't even be a problem per se. People want to make some profit, that's fine. But this "we are fighting for the world's justice bs" is really irritating.


We still work here and didn't lose our jobs for being stupid
No, you kept it because you have no balls.

And I am still not going to insult you and tell you that you are stupid.

You want another comment? Just keep calling me "love".
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 12:37
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No, you kept it because you have no balls.

And I am still not going to insult you.
Err what? Not sure those two sentences go together, love.
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 12:41
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Oh, yes they do.

The first fact I am sure of. So no insult there. Just the pure truth.

The second thing I am not sure of, so I will not call him stupid. I will wait to see his next comment.
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 12:51
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...yawn....

I guess being the penultimate HR manager is what got you fired?

Still can't find any hypocrisy in this thread except for "I support your efforts to achieve your goal. I sincerely do. People should sign your petition." You wrote that Nikita.

Not having posted on PPrune for a while, I must say this is keeping me entertained during some down time. I guess your blog is your life now. Sad.
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 13:07
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I am having fun with you from my work place, actually, but can't help it.

I still think people should sign your petition (hope that 10.000 views of your thread helps I am expert in attracting attention as well ).

And I still think that you are bunch of hypocrities. If you find it contradictory I can't help you. You are a pilot, you should be intelligent enough to understand it, no? I mean, after all of the sacrifices you've made... But hey, nobody is perfect.

Ciao.
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 13:29
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Nikita

You must be mistaken me, I didn't invest in anything in Dubai. And, my previous reply was aimed at you only, not anyone else.

You seem to be extremely bitter over Emirates and taking every opportunity to slag them. You were there for a year and a half. Many of us have over 10, 15 and 20 years seniority with the company. Emirates is not perfect, not any company is, but I honestly think that the way you are going on about it is taking the mickey. Again, you are turning every debate and topic into Emirates' fault.

When I had enough of it I raised my voice and I left.
Actually, you were sacked for sticking your nose where it apparently wasn't wanted. A great difference as opposed to "leaving" for raising your voice.
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 13:47
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Actually, you were sacked for sticking your nose where it apparently wasn't
wanted. A great difference as opposed to "leaving" for raising your voice.
Which is much more than you did.

If you think that I didn't know that I am going to be sacked, keep thinking. I got three warnings before being sacked in four last months. All of them for "negative influence on others" (actual quote from the warning letter)and "inappropriate behaviour" (ok, first of them was for playing desktop games at my computer). I just didn't want to leave without giving a meaning to my employment in EK.

Normal rules and ways of thinking do not apply on me. I am actually living my philosophy, not only bull****ing about it. So every stereotype that you are trying to apply here is wrong.

Kisses to all and good luck, hope you will get your life savings back.
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 14:01
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Ok Dragana. It seems now - that you've admitted you were sacked after several warnings - that your blog is totally pointless and meaningless!

Time to move on and let us rich, wealthy, 'screw the poor' pilots get on with making loads of money!!!

Please leave the forum...
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 14:11
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Please leave the forum...
Hahah! This was funny, actually. Thanks for that.

Well, warnings were for raising my voice against injustices and bullying, hence my "negative influence on others". But who cares, enough about me, otherwise you will successfully shift the subject from your loads of money and wealth. And we don't want that to happen.

I would leave, but I am having so much fun.
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 14:15
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Three warning letters before you were terminated, it appeared Emirates after all were being rather fair and tried to give you the benefit of the doubt.

As for not sticking your nose where it's not wanted, asking a manager of their salary at an open forum is hardly proper decorum. There is a forum for every discussion. However, you need to pick the right forum at the right moment, which most of us at Emirates did (and do) which you obviously failed greatly.
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 14:20
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Nikita,
spare us the bs. Where are the clothes that you wear manufactured? Did you ever ride in a cab in Dubai. Did you then not feed into the "Dubai System" of passport confiscations and crap working conditions for taxi drivers? Did you ever dine in a restaurant in Dubai and thereby feed into the appalling living conditions and the predicament of withheld passports of those restaurant employees? We are all guilty of that to one extent or another so spare us the "holier than thou attitude". Your cause is not of more worth than the next guy"s as you insinuate. And this from one of the guys who supportED you.
I suggest you figure out what PPRUNE stands for. Its a rumour network for pilots. We bitch and moan about salary, seniority, aircraft, the company, the industry, etc....but we don"t have blogs whining about how EK and the world have done us wrong.
In a previous thread you had said that you would stop posting on PPRUNE.
Maybe you should stay true to your word
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 16:50
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Nikita,

I think you are on the wrong site. There are a few famous dating websites that you can spend your time and energy on if you are hoping to find a rich man!
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 16:59
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You are right AllDaysAreAssholesDays.

In this thread I can (mostly) find only poor men.
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 18:41
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Attention: HH Shk. Mohammed, Vice President, Prime Minister of the UAE, Ruler of Dubai.

EIGHTY-SEVEN (87) EMIRATES AIRLINE EMPLOYEES OWED USD 12.5 MILLION DOLLARS BY UAE NATIONAL JAMAL AUF ABDULRAHMAN LOOTAH who happens to be your wife's friends brother.

https://www.change.org/p/hh-shk-moha...concepts-vs-lo

After 5 years, multiple channels of correspondence including hand delivered formal letters requested via your office - please feel free to communicate on [email protected] to resolve this outstanding award via your DIFC & Dubai Courts.

Kind regards
Nigel

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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 18:48
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Nikita has left the building for winding up the locals.
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 19:08
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I'm going to take Nikita's side on this one.

The years '06 to '08 were astonishing at Emirates. Every pilot was an overnight financial guru. Their wives would sing their praises over low fat, skinny, decaf, EPC discounted Cappuccino's.

There was the F1 fund, Mayfair and Hampstead, Property Concepts, and even EPI. As a group these guru's lost millions and put their families in debt.
Please forgive me if I sound somewhat uncharitable, but the saying "a fool and his money are soon parted" seems highly appropriate.

Whilst I applaud any and all efforts to retrieve the losses, I do find it somewhat disingenuous to dress the matter up as altruistic: "It could happen to you" and "Please sign our petition". The truth is you took a chance and you were robbed. Asking strangers to sign the petition of the very people who will directly benefit from it if successful is wrong and is the antithesis of altruism.

What Nikita is saying is quite right. If you want to champion a noble cause, make sure that it is not one that you will benefit from, and certainly not one that you fell foul of due to a combination of greed and ignorance.

Ask us to sign a petition for the maids, the taxi drivers, the construction workers and so on, and you may have our support. Otherwise, cut your losses and learn your lesson.

Nikita, these are but frightened men shouting in the dark and yours might well be the lone voice of reason. Carry on...

SM

4HP: Please reconsider...

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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 19:34
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The majority is not always right 4HP ! It was a back and forth and most parties were mud-slinging . If you ban one , all should be . A biased reaction .

Another vote of confidence for Nikita .
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 19:47
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Yup, seems a bit arbitrary to me too. Passionate and emotive yes, rude and disingenuous not a bit. Doesn't matter that some noses are out of joint. Is good to watch and she has valid arguments.
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