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Old 5th Aug 2012, 15:30   #541 (permalink)
 
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just noticed the course page outline has changed and the references are from CAAP not GCAA
I've noticed the same mistake!

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Overall the assessment was professional but not complete as I expected
Why not? what did they say?
Check you private message Mr. R
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Old 5th Aug 2012, 18:39   #542 (permalink)
 
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Gulf Aviation Academy (GAA) have signed a contract to train new cadets with Alpha Aviation Academy and which includes base and line training with Air Arabia.

GAA has bad reputation within Bahrain because it has recently abandoned 80 Bahraini JAA/IR/MEP holders to find them jobs.

And once a person asked GAA 'how come not help us find jobs but you have for the new cadets?'
The reply was from Khalid: 'let's take an example, would you choose a car made in 2011 or a car made in 2013, that's the same thing with you guys'

Go figure

Khaled Khalaf and Ahmed Al-Jowder are customer service representatives from GAA.
GAA did not sign anything yet and nothing is official as of 8/5/2012. I am wondering why are you mentioning their full names on the forums

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Old 6th Aug 2012, 04:28   #543 (permalink)
 
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ICAO | FLS | FAQs from ICAO website

Multi-Crew Pilot Licence (MPL)

What is the MPL?

The MPL allows a pilot to exercise the privileges of a co-pilot in a commercial air transportation on multi-crew aeroplanes. It provides the aviation community with an opportunity to train pilots directly for co-pilot duties. It is a new licence that has been introduced in addition to the existing pilot licences defined in Annex 1 — Personnel Licensing.

The licence focuses on ab initio airline pilot training. MPL training and assessment will be competency-based and involve a multi-crew environment and threat and error management from the onset. It provides for greater use of flight simulation training devices and include mandatory upset training. At this stage, only aeroplanes are considered for this new licence. The details of the requirements for the licence are contained in Annex 1 — Personnel Licensing and in the Procedures for Air Navigation Services — Training (PANS-TRG). These documents outline the minimum international Standard for the implementation of the MPL by any State; they can be purchased directly from ICAO through the Document Sales Unit.

Will the MPL be recognized by Contracting States?

As a licence defined by ICAO the MPL will be recognized by all ICAO Contracting States even by those that may decide not to establish an MPL as a licence within their own States. More details on the recognition of licences by other States can be found on the FAQ on "International recognition of flight crew licences".

What is a multi-crew aeroplane?

It is an aeroplane that requires a flight crew of at least two pilots. One of them is the pilot-in-command (the captain) and the other is the co-pilot (or first officer). All jet air transport aeroplanes and the vast majority of turbine powered air transport aircraft and business jet are multi-crew aeroplanes. The definition in Annex 1 — Personnel Licensing states that it is: "an aircraft required to be operated with a co-pilot as specified in the flight manual or by the air operator certificate."

Do I have to hold a MPL to be a co-pilot on a muti-crew aeroplane?

No, the co-pilot on a multi-crew aeroplane can hold either a MPL or a CPL endorsed with an instrument rating and a type rating on a multi-crew aircraft.

What are the differences between the CPL and the MPL?

For the purposes of operating multi-crew aircraft, the privileges of a MPL are equivalent to those of CPL endorsed with an instrument rating and a type rating on a multi-crew aircraft. However, and because the MPL is geared toward operation of multi-crew airplane, an MPL pilot cannot generally fly on single pilot aeroplane without meeting additional requirements. For example, MPL holders cannot exercise the privileges of a CPL and instrument ratings on single pilot aeroplane without meeting specific actual flight time and flight instruction requirements.

A number of MPL courses may be a modification of the current JAA frozen ATPL or the Transport Canada and FAA CPL/Multi-engine training, but it is expected that the majority will follow the guidance proposed in the Procedures for Air Navigation Services — Training (PANS-TRG) document.

What are the minimum flight hours required for the MPL?

The ICAO Standard for the MPL specifies 240 hours as the minimum number of actual and simulated flight hours performing the functions of the pilot flying and the pilot non-flying. However, the Standard does not specify the breakdown between actual and simulated flight hours and thus allow part of the training curriculum that was traditionally conducted on aeroplane to be done on flight simulation training devices (FSTDs). However, there is a requirement that the applicant meets all the actual flying time for a private pilot licence plus additional actual flying time in instrument, night flying and upset recovery.

Why was the MPL established?

The MPL was established to respond to the growing demand in the aviation training community that felt that the current regulatory regime that dictated a large number of flying hours in solo and on a smaller aircraft was not the most efficient and safe way to train pilots for copilot duties on jet transport aircraft.

Further, there was some perceived negative training in the apprenticeship model that was first developed for flight training in the post second world war era. A number of training organizations and airlines were adamant that modern training techniques and research into the use of modern training devices such as flight simulation training devices needed to be recognized within the ICAO licensing structure. The ICAO Air Navigation Commission formed a Flight Crew Licensing and Training Panel to explore the options and opportunities to address the shortcomings of some current licensing requirements. The competency-based concept and the MPL licence were the outcome of that panel's deliberations.

How can the MPL be implemented?

ICAO has developed the Procedures for Air Navigation Services — Training (PANS-TRG) document to support the implementation of the MPL and will monitor developments in this area through a proof of concept programme. This programme will involve stakeholders from regulatory bodies and industry. In addition, an Air Training Organization must meet the prescribed organizational standards which are also outlined in Annex 1 — Personnel Licensing and the Procedures for Air Navigation Services — Training (PANS-TRG).

What is the status of the MPL regulatory provisions?

The ICAO Council adopted the provisions related to the MPL as part of Amendment 167 to Annex 1 — Personnel Licensing on 10 March 2006. The new provisions will become applicable on 23 November 2006.
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Old 6th Aug 2012, 05:22   #544 (permalink)
 
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FOR THOSE WHO WANTED INFO ON MPL TO ATPL

JAR–FCL 1.290 Flight instruction
(See Appendix 1 to JARFCL
1.261(d))
(See AMC FCL 1.261(d))
An applicant for an ATPL(A) shall be the
holder of a CPL(A), a multi-engine instrument
rating(A) and have received instruction in multicrew
co-operation as required by JAR–FCL
1.261(d) (see Appendix 1 to JAR-FCL 1.261(d)
and AMC FCL 1.261(d)) [or be the holder of a
MPL(A)].

[Amdt.3, 01.07.03; Amdt.7, 01.12.06]
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Old 6th Aug 2012, 05:24   #545 (permalink)
 
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I totally agree to Taras B post. To all the future cadets who are thinking of joining Alpha please go through this thread and think twice. You will find for yourself that you were warned here many times by present and past cadets of this academy.
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Old 6th Aug 2012, 12:22   #546 (permalink)
 
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The side tracking of the real issues continues by the employees of AAG.....

They continue to deviate the attention from the AAG lack of ethics to the merits of the MPL training, which are not in question here.

Despite repeated statements that AAG has fixed all the original mistakes, strato and RP-C000 have chosen to ignore the terrible issues affecting the still unemployed MPL pilots graduated from AAG-Clark in the Philippines.

Isn't it true that they were promised employment upon completion of the course? When will AAG honour their word?

Tread carefully around AAG..... very carefully.....
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 13:00   #547 (permalink)
 
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as a FI..

Hello

What about working as a FI for AAG, is there someone here can talk about that?
Thank you
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 20:05   #548 (permalink)
 
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They have moved the core flying phase to australia, the only opportunities are MCC and ground instructors which require a great deal of experience. If you are a TRI/TRE, experienced AME or have something spectacular to bring to the table I would suggest you apply.
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 23:10   #549 (permalink)
 
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AAG is looking for FIs to be based in Clark Philippines; FI are also offered a discounted type rating at the end of the contract. A fleet of C172 glass cockpit is coming soon.
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Old 10th Aug 2012, 19:19   #550 (permalink)
 
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Is anyone in this forum who studied at alpha UAE now flying for Air Arabia?

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Old 11th Aug 2012, 03:12   #551 (permalink)
 
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malirm

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Old 14th Aug 2012, 12:37   #552 (permalink)
 
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RC-C000 and strato's absence has been noticed. All RP's comments have been deleted......

It seems that AAG's upper management had a hand in this misterious disappearance of two hard core defenders of their business practices.

Why would that be?
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 02:51   #553 (permalink)
 
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we are busy doing our day job mate... alive and well and super good news coming soon
not sure which of my comments are deleted ?

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Old 17th Aug 2012, 03:30   #554 (permalink)
 
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What happened to cause the failure of these AAG grandiose plans?

Training special: Alpha Aviation's Philippine fillip

Why did Nigel Harwood leave AAG in 2007?
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Old 17th Aug 2012, 03:43   #555 (permalink)
 
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This is how AAG lured people to join them.....

Read the PPT and compare what they said at the APATS and what happened afterwards.

Harwood Ppt Presentation

Has anything changed since then?

The answer is a sound, NO!!!!!!

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Old 19th Aug 2012, 04:39   #556 (permalink)
 
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I'm surprised AAG management didn't stop RP sooner. The posts were total spam and a very amateur attempt to promote a licence which is about as useful as a chocolate teapot!
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Old 19th Aug 2012, 05:30   #557 (permalink)
 
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stop me from telling the facts ? no one is stopping me mate.

The last 4 guys from MPL course in Philippines have passed their A320 check rides and are going to complete their base training (weather permitting ) on their way to successful employment

New batches starting soon with cadets from GAA Bahraini nationals all to fly with Air Arabia.
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Old 27th Aug 2012, 00:01   #558 (permalink)
 
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not banned by anyone... still here !... AAG is on to bigger projects; MPL is growing fast. AAG and GAA have partnered to provide GCC nationals with excellent employment opportunities under the Air Arabia MPL programme.

TARAS B see you tomorrow at APATS, AAG is at Booth 41; we hope we can have a discussion like professionals and help you solve your issues.
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Old 27th Aug 2012, 03:27   #559 (permalink)
 
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Where are you RP? Please come back. I miss all of your comments, socking to the miscreants such as TARAS B, TRAVELLER 93 etc, spreading lies and disparaging remarks about AAG and MPL in general. Did AAG Management really ban you, or did you just get bored with the misguided comments of idiots?
If she got bored of these posts why would she have deleted all of her posts?

The fact that she deleted her posts only means that AAG asked her to do so.
ie her posts hurt AAG instead of helping them!
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Old 27th Aug 2012, 05:27   #560 (permalink)
 
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Good observation, honestpilot

On the other hand, strato is in a different ball game. He is fully aware of the reasons for RP's disappearance from the forums and is just trying to set up a diversion from the matters at hand.

Lets say, he is beginning to feel the heat of the true facts stated here regarding the malpractices done by AAG. Malpractices that have had and have very negative impact in many families.

Stratos' attempts to conceal the truth are simply pathetic and revealed in his continued distortion of what is dealt with here.

Only the AAG malpractices and not the merits of the MPL training.

But he likes to play dumb.......
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