Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Ground & Other Ops Forums > Medical & Health
Reload this Page >

Tough medical standards

Wikiposts
Search
Medical & Health News and debate about medical and health issues as they relate to aircrews and aviation. Any information gleaned from this forum MUST be backed up by consulting your state-registered health professional or AME. Due to advertising legislation in various jurisdictions, endorsements of individual practitioners is not permitted.

Tough medical standards

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 14th Dec 2010, 01:52
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Kerikeri New Zealand
Age: 89
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Red face Tough medical standards

Take a look at NZ CAA.s web site and peruse the new medical standards that apply to all aviators doctors. be they designated medical examiners, for class 1 or class 11, parachutists or glider,microlite or anything that levitates away from the planet or descends to the planet.
In a nut shell every doctor in NZ MUST inform CAA if you mention aircraft or any of the for-mentioned devices.
The doctor confidentiality rules have been over ridden by CAA, and can be prosecuted if you say as a patient with an in growing toe nail does not advise the "Medical Unit" of this life threatening ailment.

Herr Goebbels was only practicing in 1933 compared to the new edict in New Zealand's Aviation.
gulfairs is offline  
Old 14th Dec 2010, 06:58
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: New Zealand
Age: 67
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
CAA NZ

I agree with you.. This wee country is going complety nuts and left wing. Next they will be taking plain weather info of us.
pomadom is offline  
Old 15th Dec 2010, 06:35
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: NZ
Age: 72
Posts: 205
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It look likes an AME may be legally obliged to pass any information onto CAA
according to their rules.If one requires a CAA medical one may be required to provide one's medical records,however if one requires a medical for a microlite
it is only a drivers licence medical.No legal requirement to inform CAA of anything.
Fark'n'ell is offline  
Old 15th Dec 2010, 07:29
  #4 (permalink)  
Está servira para distraerle.
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: In a perambulator.
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
The Principle Medical Officer of the New Zealand CAA, Dr Dougal Watson is an interesting man with what looks like his own website. He is a pilot with an interest in aerobatics, gliding, ultra lighting, micro lighting, parachuting, parapente, rotary and hang gliding. Interesting to note that the application of MIS002a is for anyone who holds or is required to hold a CAA medical certificate. That would be for all pilots and ATCs and some parachutists, ultra light pilots, balloonists, glider pilots, etc?
cavortingcheetah is offline  
Old 16th Dec 2010, 05:46
  #5 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Kerikeri New Zealand
Age: 89
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Excuse my ignorance: what is a MIS002a??
gulfairs is offline  
Old 16th Dec 2010, 06:57
  #6 (permalink)  
Está servira para distraerle.
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: In a perambulator.
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
This is New Zealand CAA MIS 002a

http://redirectingat.com/?id=42X4874...standards.html

It's in Fark'n'ell's post.

It says I think that your private doctor is required to notify the NZ CAA of just about anything that is ever wrong with you. The duty will lie on your personal physician because if he doesn't keep the NZ CAA up to speed on everything that is ever wrong with you he will no doubt be vicariously responsible.
cavortingcheetah is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 01:17
  #7 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Kerikeri New Zealand
Age: 89
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The Principle Medical Officer of the New Zealand CAA, Dr Dougal Watson is an interesting man with what looks like his own website. He is a pilot with an interest in aerobatics, gliding, ultra lighting, micro lighting, parachuting, parapente, rotary..................................



Take look at the PMO,page who make life very difficult for the over 70,s that still have the audacity in wanting to fly because they can and still feel OK
The PMO is only 55 but has flown at least 69 different types in 600 hour of flying. of which only 400 is PIC, He must an absolute whizz!
I suppose its better than a PMO who can't fly and thinks flying is stressfull, because they(the PMO) does not have the aptitude to Fly light or heavy aircraft. EEG the last female PMO of nzcaa who took 25 hours to convert onto a tomahawk!
One day, Just One day we in NZ might have some realism in the medical standards need and safe in GA
I note that world wide there has been one serious incapacitation in 1.3 Billion flight hours that cause death. WOW I cant wait.... for the next one.
gulfairs is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 08:17
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: India
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I feel the discussion is turning personal, whereas the decision for aviators' doctors to inform CAA is organisational.

More importantly, if the medical history of any/all the aviators is made available to CAA, it may help in better aeromedical decision making (Unravelling ADM (Aeromedical Decision Making) | Aviation Medicine :: Aerospace Medicine), for grant of license.

On a personal note, the PMO is an advocate and practitioner of ADM (ingentaconnect Aeromedical Decision-Making: An Evidence-Based Risk Management Pa...), implementing it at CAA NZ, one of the first aviation regulators committing themselves to this evidence based risk management paradigm. Thus, keeping the skies safe, irrespective of age and illness/disability.
AvMed.IN is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 08:44
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Yes.
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Stringent medical standards for aviation (Multi crew) I normally associate with 3rd world countries. They normally "cant see the wood for the trees." Just because you are as fit as a world class athlete, does not mean you are safe in anyway shape or form.

We could all learn a lot from the US and their reasonable medical standards for aviators.

India have a military Dr. administer the medical examination, which takes one whole day every 6 months. What a load of c**p! Just review their appalling accident/incident record, proves this without a doubt.
Dan_Brown is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 19:25
  #10 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Kerikeri New Zealand
Age: 89
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I do not have a degree in medicine but can only judge and form opinions by the environmental system that encompass my period on this mortal coil.
The major chase by the AV-MED experts is cardio vascular event or predictions.
I have had several friends and even distant relatives die or become complete vegetable life after a Stroke, without any previous cardio vascular untoward systems.
But does the most learned friend look for previous in that field. NO. its too hard and the costs are prohibitive to have a cranium scan for evidence of minor strokes(TIA?).
I ask, Why do pilots of two, four and even 7 seat aircraft have to be subject to more scrutiny in the medical world that a 69 year old Bus driver who can do 90KMH in NZ with 80 passengers on board amongst the worst drivers in the world and the the poorest roads in the civilized world.?
gulfairs is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.