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Old 20th Nov 2014, 21:19
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To EFB or not to EFB

That is the question. With more and more of the world's airlines using iPad's or some form of tablet as an EFB, how much longer will CX persist in it's inutile pursuit of an in house solution? 60 kg's of books and bags on each flight deck translates to HK$8M a year in fuel. Yup, really interested in fuel savings - this simple solution has been available for over 3 years now.
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Old 20th Nov 2014, 21:44
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this simple solution has been available for over 3 years now.
ROFL..

As someone who works for a none HK outfit currently going through the transition to a bespoke in house iPad solution can I say : Be careful what you wish for..

Make sure your management buy a product that is time served and has been Beta tested by some other poor s**ds in another airline and works out of the box for you guys from day one.

Do not, on any account be railroaded into struggling along with some half ased/cheap app that management want you to Beta test, because trust me if you do that you will get management messages along the lines of ..."oh, we didn't know you wanted to be able to dim the screen at night"," oh you want it to have a > 6 hour battery life?" ( no hard wired power supply for us)...."oh, so you don't want the all important charting app to disppear off into the ether, lock up, and try to find a network/update/go into sleep mode when you are crossing the FAF whilst IMC?"...and ultimately: "Despite all the above we're sure you can work though it and the paper will be going in two weeks time" (actually ours backed down and we're still using paper charts)
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Old 20th Nov 2014, 23:07
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In about 10 years and trillions of dollars, CX will say they are removing all the EFBs to make them mobile devices.

They will then announce to the world they invented the iPad!
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Old 21st Nov 2014, 13:31
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The current EFB is on the way out the door.

They are currently looking at other options, the iPad or a tablet from MS.

Standby to standby!!
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Old 21st Nov 2014, 14:06
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Yep the FAA has refused to certify the EFB in its current form on the A330 because it could potentially obstructed the pilots ability to open the cockpit windows in an emergency.
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Old 21st Nov 2014, 14:28
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Old 21st Nov 2014, 14:52
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The Cathay knows better.

There is no system out there that can be better than anything designed by a Cathay manager, for its mundanity and lack of perfection will never satisfy the highest of aviation authority that is our great and wise management.

Consequently, Cathay must design its EFB system from the ground up to show the World how an EFB system should be.
The amount of time and money invested in the conception of such perfection is irrelevant. As is customary, the world of aviation is fretting in anguished impatience for The Creation. Its flawlessness will strike awe in the most blase of connoisseurs.

Detractors will once again experience sorrow and remorse for their misplaced and envious bile will predictably find no ground to land on.

The Creator will then reap the momentous yet deserved reward for once again bestowing the Universe with such a masterpiece.

All hail The Creator.
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Old 21st Nov 2014, 20:02
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Please! I think you are understating the real situation!!
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Old 22nd Nov 2014, 00:41
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I was skeptical about the iPad solution too. I have to say it has really exceeded all expectations at QF. It really is so much better than paper.
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