QANTAS Engineering Apprenticeship
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Qantas AME Mecanical
Hey, i have just completed my trade and now earn 60k p.a with out over time. there is loads to do if u like.... you only get paid about $600 bucks a day if you would like to do O.T. and I only work 14 days a month. I am now able to work the other 16 days at a local flying school instructing.
There is loads of opportunity within the apprenticeship and if u have any questions it is best to contact apprentice training to answer them.
Its not all bad. I had an awesome experience doing the trade.
Cheers
There is loads of opportunity within the apprenticeship and if u have any questions it is best to contact apprentice training to answer them.
Its not all bad. I had an awesome experience doing the trade.
Cheers
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: gold coast,qld,australia
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emirates interest
can anyone give me an accurate version of the remuneration package offered to new emirates aircraft technicians (structures/sheeties)
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QF AM/AME Rates of Pay
These rates are current under EBA VII which runs out 31 December 2008, you could add 3% to each figure for rates of pay under EBA VIII which starts 01 Januuary 2009 because that's all QF give each EBA. For more info try and find a QF AME. These figures have been quoted out of my QF mates copy of EBA VII.
Apprentice Rates of Pay Per Week
Non Aircraft Trades (AM)
Year 1 $316.26
Year 2 $414.14
Year 3 $564.74
Year 4 $662.64
Aircarft Trades (AME)
Year 1 $325.22
Year 2 $425.88
Year 3 $580.75
Year 4 $681.40
Adult Apprentices $686.69 (over 21 years of age)
Tradesman Rates of Pay Per Week
Level 5 $731.06
Level 6 $753.00
Level 7 $774.33
Level 8 $806.56
Level 9 $847.05
Level 10 $888.49
Level 11 $938.66
Level 12 $980.59
Level 13 $1039.14*
* Currently only for Avionic AME's
Progression Within The Clasification Structure
Aircraft Trades - Avionics
Level 7 on commencement as an Avionic Aircraft Trades employee.
Level 8 after one year at Level 7.
Level 9 after one year at level 8.
Level 10 after two years at level 9.
Access to Levels 11-13 are on a 'quota' controlled basis.
Aircraft Trades - Other (AME)
Level 6 on commencement as an Aircraft Trades Employee (other than Avionics).
Level 7 after one year at level 6.
Level 8 after one year at level 7.
Level 9 after two years at level 8.
Access to levels 10-12 are on a 'quota' controlled basis.
Non Aircraft Trades (AM)
Level 5 on commencement as a Non Aircraft Trades employee.
Level 6 after one year at level 5.
Level 7 after one year at 6.
Level 8 after two years at level 7.
Access to levels 9-12 are on a 'quota' controlled basis.
Apprentice Rates of Pay Per Week
Non Aircraft Trades (AM)
Year 1 $316.26
Year 2 $414.14
Year 3 $564.74
Year 4 $662.64
Aircarft Trades (AME)
Year 1 $325.22
Year 2 $425.88
Year 3 $580.75
Year 4 $681.40
Adult Apprentices $686.69 (over 21 years of age)
Tradesman Rates of Pay Per Week
Level 5 $731.06
Level 6 $753.00
Level 7 $774.33
Level 8 $806.56
Level 9 $847.05
Level 10 $888.49
Level 11 $938.66
Level 12 $980.59
Level 13 $1039.14*
* Currently only for Avionic AME's
Progression Within The Clasification Structure
Aircraft Trades - Avionics
Level 7 on commencement as an Avionic Aircraft Trades employee.
Level 8 after one year at Level 7.
Level 9 after one year at level 8.
Level 10 after two years at level 9.
Access to Levels 11-13 are on a 'quota' controlled basis.
Aircraft Trades - Other (AME)
Level 6 on commencement as an Aircraft Trades Employee (other than Avionics).
Level 7 after one year at level 6.
Level 8 after one year at level 7.
Level 9 after two years at level 8.
Access to levels 10-12 are on a 'quota' controlled basis.
Non Aircraft Trades (AM)
Level 5 on commencement as a Non Aircraft Trades employee.
Level 6 after one year at level 5.
Level 7 after one year at 6.
Level 8 after two years at level 7.
Access to levels 9-12 are on a 'quota' controlled basis.
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Brisbane
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Level 13 $1039.14*
* Currently only for Avionic AME's
* Currently only for Avionic AME's
For each CASA basic attained that is applicable to your trade, you will receive a one off payment of $100. (This is above the $100 refunded to you by Qantas for the CASA examination fee)
Once you have attained 8 CASA basics, you are eligible to move up by one level.
Level 10-12 for mechanics and 11-12 for avionics are available on a Quota controlled basis only. If you attain one of these levels through successful application for a Quota position, however, you may not advance by one level if you subsequently attain 8 CASA basics.
This effectively makes level 13 an un-attainable level.
In Brisbane Heavy, our managers have promised for over five years, (yes, even before we all moved to Brisbane), that there is scope for level 13 in our facility. Sadly, this has amounted to nothing. All talk, no action.
Join Date: May 2008
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All remaining Perth AME's have now been given 'confirmed' dates for there
type courses. There is opportunity in this company but it wont present itself you will have to get off your A*%E and find it yourself. These guys in Perth have worked hard for the last 2-3 years and there courses are well deserved.
type courses. There is opportunity in this company but it wont present itself you will have to get off your A*%E and find it yourself. These guys in Perth have worked hard for the last 2-3 years and there courses are well deserved.
Join Date: Jan 2008
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QF Apprenticeship
To all those who made the pessimistic comments on here, all of your comments had/have merit.
Rewind a couple of years, knowing what I know now, would I do an apprenticeship with this company? No.
Best thing about this place are the people on the tools, and even then...! The pay is only good if you are a LAME - which in this current day, wont happen - staff travel is absolutely ****! and so are those nazi's at the Sydney Int standby check-in (i've only met 1 exception in all the times I flew). You are never guaranteed a seat, compared to our competitors (domestic and int'l), who get guaranteed seats! The grounding and redundancies are representative of the type of change the managers are putting through, and the lengths at which they will go to enforce them.
I can't recall any positives other than working with a couple of the best blokes ever; working on planes
(a passion eventually made sour because of this company); getting paid.
I highly suggest the RAAF! In lieu of that, anything else! Hindsight hey! What a pr*ck of a thing.
Rewind a couple of years, knowing what I know now, would I do an apprenticeship with this company? No.
Best thing about this place are the people on the tools, and even then...! The pay is only good if you are a LAME - which in this current day, wont happen - staff travel is absolutely ****! and so are those nazi's at the Sydney Int standby check-in (i've only met 1 exception in all the times I flew). You are never guaranteed a seat, compared to our competitors (domestic and int'l), who get guaranteed seats! The grounding and redundancies are representative of the type of change the managers are putting through, and the lengths at which they will go to enforce them.
I can't recall any positives other than working with a couple of the best blokes ever; working on planes
(a passion eventually made sour because of this company); getting paid.I highly suggest the RAAF! In lieu of that, anything else! Hindsight hey! What a pr*ck of a thing.
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I'm about to complete an apprenticeship with QF ,i read all of these threads 3 years ago and still went ahead. The future of HM in Melbourne was looking good then and i was happy with my choice. NOW ,well ,it's f*cked. I wanted a path in the HM stream and move into LMO at a later time when i gained more experience.
If i can't get into a line postion i'll have to pack and move to Brisbane with a hope of HM work there. Victoria is loosing lobs from all corners, it's a depressing situation and only going to get worse.
If i can't get into a line postion i'll have to pack and move to Brisbane with a hope of HM work there. Victoria is loosing lobs from all corners, it's a depressing situation and only going to get worse.
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Where ever u go ,you are just buying time,unless the government act soon ,u might as well change carrier,HM is gone.AJ is destroying the future of aircraft maintenance in Australia.
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Thank you for your reply. I can see your valid point here. I have been accepted into studying the Diploma of Aeroskills (Avionics). However, I need an apprenticeship. I am in ADL, so there appears to be less opportunity here than in SYD for example where QF have apprenticeships advertised. Government incentives are being offered to companies and trainees to assist with the "reported" shortage of aircraft maintenance workers within Australia.... Along with the state government subsidising the fee 100% for the Cert IV avionics and mechanical through TAFESA. Therefore, the current employment opportunities and feedback from those within the industry contradict the governments forecast for an impending need for A/C maintenance worker/ engineers. Is anyone able to shed light on apprenticeship opportunities or even ADL information?
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butterflyeffect,
The B1, B2 system was created by EASA to basically get the B1 to do the majority of the work and have even fewer B2 guys/girls.
Well that seriously back fired!
90% of B1's are not the greatest at electrics, and basic avionics.
A good B2 is well worth their weight in gold!
If I was you don't listen too hard to someone who has probably been in QF too long.
QF is not the bees all and ends all of aviation in the world Trust me it's not!
I've had many ex QF guys come and work for me and with me over the years once out of QF they don't last long any where else.
Don't get me wrong there is a lot of great guys in QF and in OZ aviation but are we the best in the world?
Are our standards better than anyone else?
Aviation in OZ is small compared to the rest of the world.
Do your training mate, Adelaide is good place to start easy, relaxed and great guys around.
Is Parafield still open?
You will learn more working in GA as an apprentice than at QF.
Ok maybe not all the fancy stuff but the basics the important stuff, radios, electrics, wiring, mods instruments.
A lot of this stuff is exactly the same GPS radar etc.
only thing different is the size and the way it's displayed in the cockpit.
Please note the only reason I am not comparing VA to this is they don't train apprentices.
If you are serious about moving then even consider crossing the ditch.
In the future don't be afraid of moving overseas to further yourself, continue to challenge yourself to better yourself.
Remember no one owes you anything you have to earn it yourself inch by inch scratch by scratch, no one will give you something just cause your there.
Good luck with your endeavors.
The B1, B2 system was created by EASA to basically get the B1 to do the majority of the work and have even fewer B2 guys/girls.
Well that seriously back fired!
90% of B1's are not the greatest at electrics, and basic avionics.
A good B2 is well worth their weight in gold!
If I was you don't listen too hard to someone who has probably been in QF too long.
QF is not the bees all and ends all of aviation in the world Trust me it's not!
I've had many ex QF guys come and work for me and with me over the years once out of QF they don't last long any where else.
Don't get me wrong there is a lot of great guys in QF and in OZ aviation but are we the best in the world?
Are our standards better than anyone else?
Aviation in OZ is small compared to the rest of the world.
Do your training mate, Adelaide is good place to start easy, relaxed and great guys around.
Is Parafield still open?
You will learn more working in GA as an apprentice than at QF.
Ok maybe not all the fancy stuff but the basics the important stuff, radios, electrics, wiring, mods instruments.
A lot of this stuff is exactly the same GPS radar etc.
only thing different is the size and the way it's displayed in the cockpit.
Please note the only reason I am not comparing VA to this is they don't train apprentices.
If you are serious about moving then even consider crossing the ditch.
In the future don't be afraid of moving overseas to further yourself, continue to challenge yourself to better yourself.
Remember no one owes you anything you have to earn it yourself inch by inch scratch by scratch, no one will give you something just cause your there.
Good luck with your endeavors.
