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Old 4th Jul 2017, 06:16   #981 (permalink)
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Warnings about this were sent from 2015... and ignored.
Earlier. I think officially AIPA wrote to QF in 2015 but most 767 drivers at multiple meetings prior to the RIN being published in May 2014 were asking why they were being demoted when within two years of that occurring QF would be in a massive training upswing.
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Old 4th Jul 2017, 06:39   #982 (permalink)
 
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Earlier. I think officially AIPA wrote to QF in 2015 but most 767 drivers at multiple meetings prior to the RIN being published in May 2014 were asking why they were being demoted when within two years of that occurring QF would be in a massive training upswing.
Further to what Keg has said, it was put to management that it would be a smart idea to train the whole 767 crew compliment onto the A330 in rank rather than demote the vast majority. To do so would create a short term surplus it's true, but would avoid the problems occurring now and forecast in early 2014. This has been done in the past as part of a RIN and is allowed for within the agreement.

My understanding is that the nudist changed the goalpost such that the above option was taken off the table when he showed it might cost more than his preferred option to demote everyone.

I guess we can only say we told you so.
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Old 4th Jul 2017, 13:28   #983 (permalink)
 
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"Transformation" budget and allocations ceased caring about efficiency for the RIN saga.
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Old 4th Jul 2017, 14:36   #984 (permalink)
 
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Penny wise pound foolish.

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"Transformation" budget and allocations ceased caring about efficiency for the RIN saga.
Penny wise pound foolish.

Not to mention the hit to morale and engagement that results when a professional bunch of aviators are demoted for no good reason, and against all common sense, when far better alternatives existed that would have saved millions in the medium term. The crewing issues occurring now and in the next couple of years will prove that.

Further, the amount of superfluous demotional training that had to be conducted since the 767 left us must have cost a fortune. Most of those affected will be leaving these demotional positions in the forthcoming round of training. Yours truly included.

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Old 7th Jul 2017, 10:22   #985 (permalink)
 
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Did anyone find somewhere near Sydney Airport who will sign the water competency assessment form? Sounds like a fun activity to complete in the middle of winter!
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Old 11th Jul 2017, 03:32   #986 (permalink)
 
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Still interviewing?

Hi Keg,

Do you know if they are still going through applications? Haven't gotten a yes or a no since doing the initial psych and video stage. Was told in March that I was still under consideration.

Thanks in advance.

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That would be Mr. Keg to you guys and girls after info on Qantas.
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Old 11th Jul 2017, 08:45   #988 (permalink)
 
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That would be Mr. Keg to you guys and girls after info on Qantas.
Captain Keg even.
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Old 11th Jul 2017, 15:39   #989 (permalink)
 
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Hi Keg,

Do you know if they are still going through applications? Haven't gotten a yes or a no since doing the initial psych and video stage. Was told in March that I was still under consideration.

Thanks in advance.

SCOH
If they haven't opened up applications again then they likely haven't finished going through the last round. Either sit tight or email them about it.
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Old 12th Jul 2017, 00:37   #990 (permalink)
 
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If they haven't opened up applications again then they likely haven't finished going through the last round. Either sit tight or email them about it.
Thanks Fog. Emailed them a few months ago so I'll sit tight. Was just hoping for inside knowledge that could confirm one way or another to help me decide whether I needed to email again - just in case I was lost in the system.

Cheers.

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Are Qantas and Cathay run by the same bunch of managers?

Sounds similar to me....
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Old 12th Jul 2017, 10:09   #992 (permalink)


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Thanks Fog. Emailed them a few months ago so I'll sit tight. Was just hoping for inside knowledge that could confirm one way or another to help me decide whether I needed to email again - just in case I was lost in the system.

Cheers.

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If it helps I emailed them about 1month ago in the same scenario. The response suggested:

"We are currently planning our assessment days for the rest of the year and should be in touch with an update soon."
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 00:14   #993 (permalink)
 
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If it helps I emailed them about 1month ago in the same scenario. The response suggested:

"We are currently planning our assessment days for the rest of the year and should be in touch with an update soon."
Thanks very much. I'll sit tight.

Cheers

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Old 13th Jul 2017, 07:33   #994 (permalink)
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Captain Keg even.
Lol. Given some of the names I've been called over the years- including here on PPRuNe at times- 'Keg' is perfectly fine by me.

I'll send you a PM stillcallozhome.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 08:09   #995 (permalink)
 
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Out of interest, are the requirements for internal QF group applicants the same as externals?
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Out of interest, are the requirements for internal QF group applicants the same as externals?
Here's a good rumour I picked up today. They are so stretched for training capacity that they are considering parking some 747s because of lack of crew. A 380 Captain I know of has had a simulator session cancelled 4 times due lack of a support pilot. The wheels are coming off!!!!
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Old 17th Jul 2017, 07:32   #997 (permalink)
 
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Here's a good rumour I picked up today. They are so stretched for training capacity that they are considering parking some 747s because of lack of crew. A 380 Captain I know of has had a simulator session cancelled 4 times due lack of a support pilot. The wheels are coming off!!!!
I believe the A380 sim has been offline causing disruption. 747 is running just fine but yes it is busy. 737 training has all but been put on hold to complete the current backlog and to train TRE/TRI. The airforce is being looked at to complete some training...so are the wheels falling off? Probably not... but the current training year slot allocations are probably very optimistic and allocations and crewing are fire fighting. What else did anyone expect? At least the execs got their 15/16 and 16/17 bonuses huh.
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Wheels long off 737 training
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Wheels long off 737 training
Wheels off all training and all fleets IMO.
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Any information on aircraft type courses between now and the end of the year?
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