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Old 16th Apr 2012, 03:33
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And pigs did fly...............
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Glad to be proved wrong.
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Old 16th Apr 2012, 10:57
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How much extra fuel is going to be used with the extra trim and drag needed to fly straight and level? If I quickly calculate it out over the next 15 years it would have been cheaper to wreck the old girl. Oh well
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Why so 1a. What's the goss?

You don't really know, do you!
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If it doesn't meet the performance specs, airbus pays. All part of the repair deal I think.
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It will just be wonderful to see Nancy-Bird back.

I am gutted that QF didn't invite the 155 of us who enjoyed the 1st QF A380 International passenger flight up to SIN for the return to service.

And no - it wasn't MEL LAX.

OQA performed beautifully then and I am sure she will continue to do so thanks to the skills of a brilliant flight deck crew. In the hands of lesser crews she and all on board may have been just more sad statistics.

Go you good thing Miss Nancy!!!

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Old 21st Apr 2012, 16:01
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Nancy Bird returns to the skies

It will just be wonderful to see Nancy-Bird back.
I agree, and to be fair AJ says some good stuff in this clip.. positive for a change.

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Old 21st Apr 2012, 23:24
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VH-OQA Nancy Bird Walton touched down YSSY 16R approx 2319 today.
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My post could be interpreted many ways, I better clarify.

The message i get is that old style aviation professionalism is being overtaken by new generation management style and moneyspeak.
 
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It is the lesson that says ‘keep in control and keep informed.’

by prospector; The message I get is that old style aviation professionalism is being overtaken by new generation management style and moneyspeak.
Well said, my view as well. I think Ben Sandilands sums it up well in his latest piece.

Qantas and the real lessons of QF32 and the rebuilt A380 | Plane Talking
Amid the extensive, and accurate, reporting of the return to flight of the first Qantas A380, Nancy-Bird Walton, that was severely damaged by an engine disintegration operating QF32 on 4 November 2010, there is one sharp lesson for all airlines when it comes to maintenance and ‘care’.
And that isn’t the one that managements and unions argue about, which is outsourcing.
It is the lesson that says ‘keep in control and keep informed.’
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Great Price - Asia Outsourcing?

This gem from Sydney Morning Herald today:

"Damaged A380 back in service

The Qantas Airbus A380 that dramatically lost an engine in a mid-air explosion is back in service after 18 months and 139 dollars worth of repairs."

Classic!
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Shame they never bothered to wash it
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Send a photo of it to Olivia. Just to show her what a QANTAS A380 looks like.
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Welcome home Nancy, a aircraft named after such a great lady, could never turn up her toes, Nancy never did. Fly straight and level from now on, great Lady.
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It was washed in Singapore 5 days ago but then parked outdoors in the rain.
Money well spent.

Oh and for all those who say she is not going to be repaired etc etc. Too expensive blah blah blah.......
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Test / Proving?

Just flew down into the Bight turned around and now back over Melbourne at FL410 as flight QF6001 now headed back to Sydney I assume.

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Wonder if it was the rest of the route check too?
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Reason why NBW didn't get a wash!

OQA went into SAIEC for some repainting on its airframe and underwing on 12 April. SAIEC had wanted AUD 40K for a wash but the problem lied with the accumulated grease and dirt trapped behind each window outer frame. That means no sooner you wash the outside, the dirt streak marks will appear after couple days of rain. I believe CY made a very sensible decision not to have spent the money and for the detailed cleaning done in SYD.

I give much credit to the QF engineering team led by CY for their extraordinary effort and patience in dealing with the highly bearucratic Changi Airport Corp and Changi Police, SIAEC and the rest. In spite that SIAEC was making from QF some astronomical amount of money from the hangar rental and engineering work, OQA had overstayed its welcome at the end, hangar resource is normally scarce in any case, let alone a 16 month occupation, hence the aircraft was forced to have its work completed in a remote bay - B104 just off the Budget Terminal. A fully operational work site had to be set up for the last schedule work.

A side episode; halfway into the remote bay operation, #3 RH fan cowl was damaged by a runaway SATS engineering stairs. The QF team didn’t make any fuss with finger pointing, and just got on with the rectification. This was greatly appreciated by SATS, and in turn gave their full cooperation to have the aircraft cleaned in record time and fit for the big press event on 21April.
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Old 23rd Apr 2012, 10:22
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Having worked for Changi Airport Group before and dealt with all the bureaucracy, what you're saying is probably true. I shudder when I think of it even now! Many things were stalled because of lower level clerical staff desperate to prove their power "just cos I can - so suck it up!!!"
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Old 23rd Apr 2012, 10:27
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OQA had overstayed its welcome at the end, hangar resource is normally scarce in any case
Whilst we have A380s in the fleet, we had better get used to 'borrowing' other MRO hangars. No suitable facility here in OZ. Just as well OQA returned to SIN, had it continued here - where would we have accomplished such a repair?

But as AJ would have us believe "these planes don't need as much maintenance".

90000 manhours on this occasion.

An incident like this is not new and every fleet has had maintenance challenges. Are we ready for the next one?

No.
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