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Old 29th Jul 2010, 08:50
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Hey, i'm invited for phase 2 next month!

Does anyone have tips for me?

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Old 29th Jul 2010, 16:47
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Il be there next Monday, see you all there, and best of luck

Jenny, Eurocontrol will pay expenses up to a certain amount, i think €500. Within 50km they dont pay anything, above 50km they pay train fare, above (i think) 500km theyll pay air fare and train fare, and if a see crossing is necessary (i.e. from the UK) theyll pay for most methods. I am travelling by plane to Amsterdam and trains to Maastricht, then trains to Brussels, London and Birmingham on the way home, works out around £200 all told. But they also say in the documentation to contact them if you are unsure BEFORE buying tickets.

Oh, they also say that you should go in a more or less direct route, and avoid high fares by booking early. You also cant go first class, etc.

Anyway, most questions are answered by the documentation they send when you confirm that you can make the test day youve been invited for!
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Old 29th Jul 2010, 20:12
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A quick question for LessThanSte or anybody else who got an invite for phase 1.

After sending my online application and eye test, how long do i have to wait to get an reply/invite for phase 1.

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Old 30th Jul 2010, 00:17
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After sending in my education certificates, it was about 2 weeks. This thread suggests though that that is by no means a definite, and can take much longer!
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LessThanSte, many kind thanks for your informative reply
Today,I've got a mail that I'll soon get an exact appointment soon.
I hope I can make it.
Wish everybody luck!
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I just found out that I passed the interview!

The training is said to begin sometime around may and the medical exam three months before that.
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 15:43
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congratulations!

do you know where the basic cours will be? and do you know if the cours in january(i think it's january) is full? or was it your wish to start in may?
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Old 3rd Aug 2010, 11:36
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Thanks.

The course in February is full. That's why I start in may.

They didn't know the exact location, but they said it will be one of the following: Luxembourg, Switzerland, France, Germany.
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Sweet, I passed Phase 1 and have been invited to Phase 2, which I believe is in a month or so.

With the benefit of experience, here is some info about the tests;

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Travel to Maastricht is very easy, the bus station is directly outside the train station, number 59 goes from stand G. It operates about once per hour. A single costs €4 but for €5.50 you can buy a day ticket that can be used on any route all day. It takes about 20 minutes to get to the airport, the Tulip Inn hotel is directly next to the airport building. The hotel is actually very nice, with the bar overlooking the runway. It isnt a busy airport, no flights after 11pm, but if you leave your window open you will get woken up by airport vehicles during the night. Breakfast and Lunch are provided at Eurocontrol.

After collection of your travel reciepts, part 1 commences. There are 3 tests, followed by a 10 minute break, followed by 3 more tests. For us, the order was; Coordinate system; English; Runway Instruction; Sorting; Ball-On-Wall; Cubes.

Coordinate system gives you a 5x5 grid with a load of points/aircraft marked on. You then have to deduce heading changes (turning left or right to a certain heading) and distances to various other points. This generally gets more tricky the further you go.

English comprehension is relatively straight forward if you speak English as a first language, and from talking to others, not to bad even if you dont. Listen carefully and answer based on what was actually stated, not what you may think otherwise. The numbers part is most tricky, just concentrate on all of the numbers.

Runway Instructions asks you to direct planes to a runway via a series of control points. Priorities are explained during the introduction, and should be followed exactly, unless stated otherwise by a message on screen. Remember to follow the rules explicitly!!!

Sorting test is designed to make you make mistakes, i guess they are more worried about how you react to those mistakes. If you can pull yourself together when you make a mistake then i assume you will be ok. Do not get angry with yourself, as you'll make more mistakes. You have to sort shapes/colours/numbers into certain boxes, with a further match item that overrides everything else. Also, messages pop up that require special functions to be completed. You have 2 seconds for each one, it is very quick-fire.

Ball on Wall simply gets you to press a relevant button (1, 2, 3 or 4) when the relevant ball intersects with the wall. Again its designed to make you panic. Its easy to start hitting the wrong buttons.

Cube test is exactly like the example on page 21 of this thread. I think this is one of the most important, and for some one of the hardest. I do think you can practice this, as i did the night before. On a piece of paper draw a net of a cube and insert some shapes on each face. Then, on a cube drawn underneath, draw one of the shapes from the net, and then try and figure out the other 2 sides. Do this lots, and you will soon start to figure out how the various cubes go together. Also cutting out a cube net and putting it together will help you to understand.

Then its time for lunch and for the chosen few, part 2 is the strip management test. For this there is a 1hour 30minute tutorial on what to do, and a brief practice test. You will be given a series of control fixes with flights going between them. You'll look for local conflicts (same control fix within 4 minutes and 3000 feet), opposite conflicts (travelling in opposite directions between fixes within 4 minutes and 3000 feet), strips that can be deleted when not relevant, strips that need updating when new oral instructions are relayed to you, and will also be tasked to sort strips by time order. There is a lot to do, do not concentrate on one task but spread yourself around, systematically working out one thing at a time. All tasks are given the same weighting. I assume it will also punish you for making mistakes more than once. The first time you make a mistake it will tell you, from then its best not to make another one.

I spoke to the person running the tests after about Phase 2. She said that the 18 best people from the 3 days of testing will be compared with those people on a reserve list, with the then best 18 or so going through to Phase 2. Also, from Thursday onwards (i.e. the day you recieve results) you can contact her for feedback on the tests, this is whether you passed them or not, which may be useful for future reference.

Hope this helps, and good luck to everyone taking the tests soon!
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Old 5th Aug 2010, 11:56
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very cool so maybe we will see us(if we have phase 2 at the same day).

i think the procedure is: first week phase 1 and third week phase 2. so phase 2 will be in 1 /2 weeks

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Old 5th Aug 2010, 17:24
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Well, as i said they invite 18 apparently, from this selection and from the reserve list. I dont know if you'll be in our one or not. If you did the 29th June tests i assume that you'd be on the reserve lists so maybe, maybe not. otherwise youll be with others from your selection period.

I know at least 2 of us from Monday's testing got through, dont know about the other 4 people.

Oh, i emailed Imke Willems about dates, as i go on holiday to the states on Sept. 20th, she said that phase 2 would be the week commencing Monday 6th September, with the date to be confirmed by letter in the next few days.
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Old 5th Aug 2010, 18:38
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Congrats for passing Phase 1, LessThanSte!

And good luck on Phase 2 for both of you!
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Old 6th Aug 2010, 09:07
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Eurocontrol

Hello,
I was told to go to the first phase yesterday. Can anybody give me any advise?What's the first phase about?Are the exams so difficult as I've read from other forums?
Thank you
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Old 6th Aug 2010, 09:10
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three posts above your post...

you were right -.- phase 2 will be in september...

how did you know that it will be in one month? i really hope it will take place during the first week of september...

last update: phase 2 will be the week around the 13th of september...

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Old 6th Aug 2010, 15:44
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Are we trying to make an impression here schneiderATC ?
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Old 6th Aug 2010, 21:32
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schneider, my post and the blog a few pages back has all the information you need. Telling you anything else would be unfair on all those that researched for themselves. Also try the Eurocontrol website!

Unregistered, the dates ive mentioned is what I have been told by Imke Willems. I guess its subject to change, but i suspect not. Imke actually said week 36 which corresponds to w/c 6th September, though i havnt checked that is indeed the case!
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Old 10th Aug 2010, 16:25
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i got an email telling me i will be called for phase 1. im just curious to know how long the waiting list to get called for phase 1 is...

Are we talking days, weeks or months away?


why i need to know this is.. if i dont succeed in the tests to be an air traffic controller i can always go do an extra year in college.. but i would need to know by mid September whether or not i go back to college.

i look forward to any helpful replies

thank you
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Old 10th Aug 2010, 17:57
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i think you have to wait at least 2 months. there will be a phase 2 in september(which was planned for august) , so i think there will no phase 1 in september.

but why so fast? the next course which is still not full starts in may. so it's not a big problem to go to college.
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Old 11th Aug 2010, 19:27
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on-line application form

Hi, sorry for bothering but I received the first e-mail with the link to the online application but It doesn't work. This message occurs: Server Error in '/' Application.

The resource cannot be found.

Description: HTTP 404. The resource you are looking for (or one of its dependencies) could have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. Please review the following URL and make sure that it is spelled correctly.

Requested Url: /Test4 2/Forms/LoginAssessment.aspx


what does this mean.. why I can't enter and fill in the application. Suggestions? ;ss
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Old 11th Aug 2010, 21:18
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Well, I'll try the eurocontrol exams, but in case of failing I'd like to go on a privated course in the UK with some of the two main companies. Do you know if it's hard to find a tower in England after you get the student license?Are there many many people waiting for a chance?
I'd be thankful if somebody could give an answer
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