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Old 6th Aug 2012, 12:56   #7901 (permalink)
 
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nearly a month since applications were re-opened.... I wonder when they're going to send out the invitations to the online basic checking tests, and stage 1/2 dates for those already past the first hurdle?
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Old 6th Aug 2012, 13:48   #7902 (permalink)


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oh no

I feel like an idiot! I sent my application off around the 12th July, and thought it was weird that I hadn't heard anything back by now (6th August) so logged on to my NATS account and reviewed my profile. I fixed a grammatical error that I came across then finished the thing off - but I think I've sent off my application again because I received another email from NATS, the same as before, saying that they had received my application! I'm aware that you can only apply to NATS three times, hopefully I haven't stupidly used up two of my three chances!
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Old 7th Aug 2012, 11:44   #7903 (permalink)
 
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rachael94: Not at all. NATS knows how many times you have taken the tests. The fact that they should have re-sent the email you mention is just as a confirmation of your update. Which is something very far from wasting one of your three chances.
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Old 7th Aug 2012, 17:48   #7904 (permalink)
 
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Just put my application in too..fingers crossed..
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 10:34   #7905 (permalink)
 
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Put my application in almost a month ago now, so I'm glad to see I'm not the only one with an eye on my inbox all day long! Good luck to everyone when the interviews eventually come about!
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 17:28   #7906 (permalink)
 
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I failed stage 3. Time to overcome throught it and try again!
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 18:35   #7907 (permalink)
 
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Recent applicants - anyone heard back?

Long shot based on the replies already on here - but has anyone who applied recently heard anything?
I tried to reply to the confirmation email (as it says you can?!) to ask about waiting times, but it just bounced back from the server...

Good luck to all with applications in
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 19:47   #7908 (permalink)
 
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Sarah_Lou: you are not the only one, it is evident they are holding us back. Don't worry. I for instance, one of them, and there are many of us. Just wait till your number comes up unless you see that everyone has been responded except you. My advice is to not bother them with unimportant issues.

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Old 14th Aug 2012, 01:17   #7909 (permalink)
 
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Failed Stage 3, gutted to have gotten so close and fallen short. Ah well, I'll certainly try again once I've had a chance to work on what NATS say in my feedback.
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Old 14th Aug 2012, 14:00   #7910 (permalink)
 
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Simon89: Im sorry to hear. If you are so sure you want to give it another go, keep at it!, thats the attitude to have, don't give up!
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Old 16th Aug 2012, 11:06   #7911 (permalink)
 
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Hi, I'm FRENCH and new to this forum.
I have completed my registration and now I am waiting for an answer as many of you.
I am a bit concern about my eligibility due to my nationality and diploma.
NATS ask GCSE with grade C or equivalent which should not be a problem since I've got a master degree of engineering.
But what about English speaking/listening ? Of course I speak English but I'am not fluent like people from English speaking country.

Is there some people in the same situation as me on this Forum?
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Old 16th Aug 2012, 11:25   #7912 (permalink)
 
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As a Swede English is not my naitive language (even though I am fluent).

What you need is an ICAO level 5, NATS will test you for this if you make it through the application process. If you ahve doubts about being able to achive a class 5 maybe you should ask HR to test you beforehand if possible, it may be though that their reasoning is that if you make it thruogh the entire process and interveiw (which is all in English conducted by naitive speakers) you'll manage a class 5.
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Old 16th Aug 2012, 11:45   #7913 (permalink)
 
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Thank you for the answer.
Before applying to NATS I tried Skyguide ( almost good...) then Geneve Apron control, but they do not recruit for the moment. However I met them (Apron control) and they assessed my English (I had and interview with an English "teacher").
The guy told me that that English level ICAO is about 4.
I think i can quickly improve it if needed, I just hope I can start the selection then see what happens.
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Old 16th Aug 2012, 17:02   #7914 (permalink)
 
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Hi Frenchmax,

I'm french as well and i had to take the english GCSE in order to apply.
I've got a degree in engineering as well but according to Nats it wasn't enough... For them, our english "bac" is not equivalent to their GCSE's...
But just double check with them,

Let us know
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Old 16th Aug 2012, 18:37   #7915 (permalink)
 
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Salut HeaVn,
This is what I fear, but I still do not have answer from NATS. What is exactly GCSE, did you take only "English test" or the whole certificat (math, history...)?
How long does it take, when or where can I take it..... ?
So you are waiting to take NATS selection too. ?
I didn't find information about online test. Somobody can help?
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Old 17th Aug 2012, 07:22   #7916 (permalink)
 
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A GCSE is a General Certificate of Secondary Education. Unlike your scholastic system, you get individual GCSE's for each subject.

So you get one for maths, another for English and so on.

The problem with a single certificate you get is that NATS require specific grades for English and Maths, where as all you provide is a general certificate covering all subjects.

If you do need to take the GCSE you will only take one, you don't need to do all subjects as in France
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Old 17th Aug 2012, 08:45   #7917 (permalink)
 
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No, you only need the english one as our exam covers the other subjects.
I took it just before Nats shut everything down, i was about to apply...
The exam is not long, i think it was 3 hours. You can take it in almost every school, as when, i don't really know. You should contact some of them and sort something out.
Yes i'm in the process as well, waiting for a reply....
On the online test i think you have some mental maths and some basic checkings, i don't know much more.

Hopefully, i'll see you there.
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Old 17th Aug 2012, 13:01   #7918 (permalink)
 
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Ok, thank you guy.
In the past, It was possible to download document from NATS website to prepare the selection.
Unfortunalety, the page doesn't exist anymore.
Is there someone here who can send me those documents ?:
test_materials.doc
NATS_Practice_Leaflet2.pdf


Thank you
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Old 17th Aug 2012, 14:41   #7919 (permalink)
 
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Crazy Voyager, are you sure it isn't an ICAO level 4? I thought 4 was the minimum to be an ATC. Is it level 5 for NATS? Cheers
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Old 17th Aug 2012, 16:51   #7920 (permalink)
 
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It is level 5, level 4 is the minimum but (this is all of the top of my head, but I'm sure you can look it up in the docs if you'd like) ICAO also says that units that require a higher level may stipulate a level 5 is required, NATS has as I've understood it decided that all their units are complex enough (maybe due to the amount of naitive English speakers) that everyone requires a level 5 or higher.
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