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IHL
3rd Jan 2003, 20:51
Any tips on recognizing and avoiding tailplane icing with Turbo Props in general, or in a King Air specifically?

Thanks.

m&v
4th Jan 2003, 00:15
King Air Generally hasn't had a bad record to date.That deep wing stays quite clean.The French type also gave some warning,loss of airspeed ,aileron movement with the Autopilot on.
If you start to 'load up'change Alt'(get out of the layer),and 'hand fly to 'feel' how it handles....
Cheers:rolleyes:
Ps.don't forget the tailplane though give the deicing boots a'good shot before approach to avoid a stall ,'bug'up the airspeed and don't use 'full flap(don't blank out the elevator)

Uptrim Disable
4th Jan 2003, 12:34
NASA published a video not too long ago called "Tailplane icing". Your company should receive it for free if they / you contact them. Very useful stuff. We have one at each crew room.

Empty Cruise
5th Jan 2003, 19:11
- Bug up the ASI
- Don't use full flap

Agree, however only if followed immediately by:

- Increased LDA required
- Use of ice vanes, giving you...
- Decreased limiting mass for approach climb

Icing in clouds is not uncommon to go along with icing on the ground, so make sure you don't use the tricks without doing the thinking to go aloing with them.

Enjoy - they handle beatifully, even in icing - and they can stand a lot of it before getting in trouble.

Regards,
Empty.

411A
5th Jan 2003, 21:58
Hmmm, seem to remember from long ago that the Viscount had problems with tailplane icing...any ex-Viscount drivers out there have a comment?

Captain Stable
6th Jan 2003, 07:18
The EMB110 Bandeirante had problems with tailplane icing - if tailplane icing was "suspected" on approach, it was forbidden to use the final stage of flap. I seem to recall that there was no advice given on what would make you suspect tailplane icing when the rest of the fuselage was (apparently) clear.

m&v
8th Jan 2003, 04:13
411'
Your quite right 4 crashes I know of due 'tailplane 'Icing in the viscount.When they put down 'landing'flapblanked out tail stalled aircraft dived into the ground,read of it happening with a 'seaboard'DC4 also.:)