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osmosis
8th Feb 2011, 19:58
Are any tailwheel configured aircraft fitted with their mains with any degree of toe-in or toe-out? I am aware of the Goodyear-type installations on Stinsons (and perhaps even some early Cessnas) and the larger cargo carrying military types. Thanks in advance.

c100driver
9th Feb 2011, 03:17
Toe in for the Cessna 180, toe out makes the aircraft a b*gger to land.

osmosis
9th Feb 2011, 03:53
I have some time in the 180 series of tail wheelers and I am aware they can catch the unwary. Recent discussion and my own inquisitiveness has led me to search for toe-in/toe-out configuration but the information I have found to date seems to conflict.

c100driver
9th Feb 2011, 07:50
The service manual for the C180 and C185 have both the same instructions

Cabin and fuel tanks empty the toe in and positive camber should be.

Toe in 0" to .12"
Positive camber 4 to 6 degrees

This should give zero toe in and zero positive camber at max takeoff weight. therefore the landing will be with toe in in and positive camber after burning fuel.

Air Tourer
9th Feb 2011, 09:58
I would reckon the 450HP Ag-cat, and the Cessna Ag-Wagon have a lot of toe-in. Both tend to "skip" when landing on sealed runways. IE the spring steel undercarrage comes in and then springs back out. Nothing to do with me surely?

osmosis
9th Feb 2011, 21:33
Thank you c100 it was specifics I was looking for. But the confusing thing was other alleged information I have recently dug up cites toe-out also, though not for the 180/185.

Airtourer, the 188's had legs that dangled like a lovesick stork and we habitually used the grass when landing, bitumen on t/o.

EW73
10th Feb 2011, 01:36
definitely toe-in.

c100driver
10th Feb 2011, 02:36
When I bought my C180 it was a real bit*h to land and had you sweating every time you looked at the tarmac. I flew it for years that way before I did a refurb on the landing gear and re rigged it. The difference was astounding, she turned into a pussycat and it was only my fault for the landings after then.