Well trousered

[sandbagsteve]

I know I'm going to get the pi** taken by my instructor for this...

Anyone know where I can get a pair of cargo style trousers with clear map pockets on the legs, a la full flight/romper suite, but just the trousers...

[Horst Schwul]

Tis not just your instructor that will take the pi55....

May one ask what for? - Won't a kneeboard suffice?

[sandbagsteve]

I just wanted to put some aid memoirs in there while I'm learning... as scrambling through my notepad in the air is a faf... Nah... you're right. It's not like I need to keep approach plates in there... pi** take accepted... :p

maybe I could put the destination cafe menu in there so I can debate what to eat en-route.

[BackPacker]

When I fly aerobatics I like to have the least amount of cockpit clutter I can achieve. So the kneeboard, checklists, charts, license and everything is all tucked away in a safe but accessible place before take-off. The only thing I need to keep handy is my sequence of aerobatics figures. So I just put an elastic rubber band around my leg and tug that piece of paper (A6 size) underneath it. Maybe that'll work for you too?

[Mark 1]

Try the 9G kneeboard. Everything stays in place when you stand up or fly upside down. Google should find you a supplier.

[DeeCee]

A small kneeboard is fine. I keep a blank sheet on top for flight details; tacho readings, Brakes On/Off, QHN etc. Inside you can use the transparent pages for whatever you want. I keep a small bag on the backseat with everything else ready to hand if required. You'll soon fall into a method that suits you. Happy flying.

[Intercepted]

When I was a student we had to use an A4 kneeboard. I wanted a smaller one from day one. I got my whishes through without debate on the day I did my first steep turns and couldn't get that 45 deg bank because of a blocking kneeboard. The kneeboard should have been tucked away but it wasn't and I had just experienced the importance of full and free movement.

[Captain Smithy]

There were some trousers meeting your exact requirements on sale not too long ago in one of the pilot shops, but they were insanely expensive (about £90, I think). They were featured in Today's Pilot sometime last year. Try Transair?

A decent enough idea I suppose, but what's wrong with a kneeboard? :hmm:

Smithy

[Miles Magister]

Steve,

Do not let anyone take the mickey out of you for what is a very good idea. You do what suits you and what helps you fly comfortably and well. Double bluff the posers. I have flown much of my career with useful pockets and they are a great idea.

I did teach aerobatics to a chap in a firefly who had cut a section out of a fabric softener bottle which fitted his leg perfectly when some elastic was added. He tied a chinograph pencil on to write with. It was an excelent idea which worked very well.

Flying is not about fasion, it is about enjoyment and standards. If you can not find the trousers then get some flying suit style pockets sown onto some normal trousers.

Great idea and enjoy your flying.

MM

[S-Works]

You can get ex USAF trousers that meet your requirements. They are part of a 2 piece flying suit.

Not sure I would want to been seen dead in them, I prefer denim.

[englishal]

I don't wear a flight suit.....but I reckon a dark coloured one would be blimmin useful.

For starters, during the preflight, one is often crawling around under the plane getting dirty. Secondly having numerous pockets seems like a good idea in the cockpit, if for no other reason than to stop your camera getting lost.

The problem comes when you get out of your C150 for lunch - looking like you've just stepped out of an F/A18 at Miramar... :O

[rusty sparrow]

Anyone use these? - look useful for a cramped cockpit and don't foul the stick

[usedtofly]

How about shorts and a tattoo on yer knee :}

[Wessex Boy]

This is something we will be looking at next year, but trying to make them as much like ordinary trousers as possible.

The main issue is the volume, ie the price is high due to the low volumes, so we are also exploring other avenues/options in the meantime.

Our whole aim is to produce flying clothing that won't cause you any pi** taking.

Jeremy Atkins

Aero-ist Clothing Limited

[Jetscream 32]

its my company that makes them pm me and i will give you the web address to purchase Aerotrousers unless the mods will let me put on here!

[18greens]

Kneeboards are for wimps. If you can't remember the frequencies write them on the back of your hand and chinagraph all other important info onto the windscreen. Job done and no cockpit clutter.

[Captain Smithy]

Kneeboards are for wimps. If you can't remember the frequencies write them on the back of your hand and chinagraph all other important info onto the windscreen. Job done and no cockpit clutter.

Original idea, though I suspect the FIs may not be too amused. None too useful for VFR either...

Smithy (Kneeboard-using wimp)

[007helicopter]

Aerotrousers here www.lsa123.co.uk (http://www.lsa123.co.uk/)

[Molesworth 1]

arm boards?

Although these are advertised on a UK web TV channel they can't be bought in the UK but have to be ordered from the US who demand an extortionate amount to ship them.

[ExSp33db1rd]

'trouble is, the pockets have to be accessible when sat down, regular 'cargo pant ' pockets that open at the top are no good, the opening has to be up and down at the front when stood, so that the opening is on top of the thigh when sat down.

I modify mine - think I'll patent the idea.

QED.

[Wessex Boy]

Quote:
arm boards?
Although these are advertised on a UK web TV channel they can't be bought in the UK but have to be ordered from the US who demand an extortionate amount to ship them.


We are aiming to bring to market an exciting new product that will render that issue obsolete early next year.....

[Flash0710]

This is me.. they are awesome trousers....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DR3vGUOVUA

hugs

xxxf

[Lister Noble]

Brand New Heavy Weight Flame Resistant Royal Naval Combat Trousers - Surplus and Outdoors (http://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/shop/outdoor-clothing/trousers-shorts/brand-new-heavy-weight-flame-691251.html)

I've just ordered two pairs of these.
£9.99/pair,limited sizes,but cheap so if not suitable for flying will be used in the garden,workshop etc.
Lister:)

[sandbagsteve]

Ha! love that Armstrong and miller sketch - good find... pi55 well and truly taken - isn't it.

[CleanSpeed]

How about shorts and a tattoo on yer knee
:D UsedtoFly: I believe the current terminology would be "LOL"? Nice one.

SandBagSteve: there is lots of advice above, but how about: next time you find yourself sat in the cafe drinking coffee and waiting for the weather to clear, why not spend a few minutes learning the checklists? That way you reduce the on-board clutter and you don't look such a tw@t when you climb out.

[bobstay]

If I were doing this, I'd get some normal trousers and sew some similar-coloured velcro across the thighs where I wanted the pockets / kneeboard. Then create the pockets out of stiff fabric and clear plastic, and velcro them on.

That way you can take the pockets off before you leave the aircraft...

[J.A.F.O.]

Bob

With velcro all over your trousers you may not be able to leave the aircraft.

[Runaway Gun]

Plus the velcro is a fire hazard. Just ask NASA.

[Miles Magister]

The trick is to sew the legs so they are natural in the seated position just like Auntie Liz's flying suits.

If you fill the side pockets with VFR guides etc then your trousers will fall down when you walk inless oyu are wearing braces.

The best flying trousers you will find are the MK3 cold weather trousers, but a but warm and robust for GA.

MM

[Wessex Boy]

MM, us Rotary crew got issued the DPM two-piece flying suit that had a lighter-weight version of the cold-weather trouser, with a combat jacket styley top.

I still have mine, but the waist seems to have shrunk in the 20 years since I left...must be the material or something?