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Old 24th Sep 2009, 19:34
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Well trousered

I know I'm going to get the pi** taken by my instructor for this...

Anyone know where I can get a pair of cargo style trousers with clear map pockets on the legs, a la full flight/romper suite, but just the trousers...
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Old 24th Sep 2009, 20:32
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Tis not just your instructor that will take the pi55....

May one ask what for? - Won't a kneeboard suffice?
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Old 24th Sep 2009, 20:43
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I just wanted to put some aid memoirs in there while I'm learning... as scrambling through my notepad in the air is a faf... Nah... you're right. It's not like I need to keep approach plates in there... pi** take accepted...

maybe I could put the destination cafe menu in there so I can debate what to eat en-route.
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Old 24th Sep 2009, 23:21
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When I fly aerobatics I like to have the least amount of cockpit clutter I can achieve. So the kneeboard, checklists, charts, license and everything is all tucked away in a safe but accessible place before take-off. The only thing I need to keep handy is my sequence of aerobatics figures. So I just put an elastic rubber band around my leg and tug that piece of paper (A6 size) underneath it. Maybe that'll work for you too?
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Old 25th Sep 2009, 03:39
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Try the 9G kneeboard. Everything stays in place when you stand up or fly upside down. Google should find you a supplier.
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Old 25th Sep 2009, 09:31
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A small kneeboard is fine. I keep a blank sheet on top for flight details; tacho readings, Brakes On/Off, QHN etc. Inside you can use the transparent pages for whatever you want. I keep a small bag on the backseat with everything else ready to hand if required. You'll soon fall into a method that suits you. Happy flying.
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Old 25th Sep 2009, 09:50
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When I was a student we had to use an A4 kneeboard. I wanted a smaller one from day one. I got my whishes through without debate on the day I did my first steep turns and couldn't get that 45 deg bank because of a blocking kneeboard. The kneeboard should have been tucked away but it wasn't and I had just experienced the importance of full and free movement.
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Old 25th Sep 2009, 11:12
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There were some trousers meeting your exact requirements on sale not too long ago in one of the pilot shops, but they were insanely expensive (about 90, I think). They were featured in Today's Pilot sometime last year. Try Transair?

A decent enough idea I suppose, but what's wrong with a kneeboard?

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Old 25th Sep 2009, 11:17
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Knee boards

Steve,

Do not let anyone take the mickey out of you for what is a very good idea. You do what suits you and what helps you fly comfortably and well. Double bluff the posers. I have flown much of my career with useful pockets and they are a great idea.

I did teach aerobatics to a chap in a firefly who had cut a section out of a fabric softener bottle which fitted his leg perfectly when some elastic was added. He tied a chinograph pencil on to write with. It was an excelent idea which worked very well.

Flying is not about fasion, it is about enjoyment and standards. If you can not find the trousers then get some flying suit style pockets sown onto some normal trousers.

Great idea and enjoy your flying.

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Old 25th Sep 2009, 11:41
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You can get ex USAF trousers that meet your requirements. They are part of a 2 piece flying suit.

Not sure I would want to been seen dead in them, I prefer denim.
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Old 25th Sep 2009, 11:51
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I don't wear a flight suit.....but I reckon a dark coloured one would be blimmin useful.

For starters, during the preflight, one is often crawling around under the plane getting dirty. Secondly having numerous pockets seems like a good idea in the cockpit, if for no other reason than to stop your camera getting lost.

The problem comes when you get out of your C150 for lunch - looking like you've just stepped out of an F/A18 at Miramar...
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Old 25th Sep 2009, 14:17
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arm boards?

Anyone use these? - look useful for a cramped cockpit and don't foul the stick
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Old 25th Sep 2009, 14:34
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How about shorts and a tattoo on yer knee
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Old 25th Sep 2009, 14:50
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This is something we will be looking at next year, but trying to make them as much like ordinary trousers as possible.

The main issue is the volume, ie the price is high due to the low volumes, so we are also exploring other avenues/options in the meantime.

Our whole aim is to produce flying clothing that won't cause you any pi** taking.

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Old 25th Sep 2009, 14:52
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its my company that makes them pm me and i will give you the web address to purchase Aerotrousers unless the mods will let me put on here!
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Old 25th Sep 2009, 16:57
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Kneeboards are for wimps. If you can't remember the frequencies write them on the back of your hand and chinagraph all other important info onto the windscreen. Job done and no cockpit clutter.
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Old 26th Sep 2009, 13:37
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Kneeboards are for wimps. If you can't remember the frequencies write them on the back of your hand and chinagraph all other important info onto the windscreen. Job done and no cockpit clutter.
Original idea, though I suspect the FIs may not be too amused. None too useful for VFR either...

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Old 26th Sep 2009, 21:50
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Old 26th Sep 2009, 22:13
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arm boards?
Although these are advertised on a UK web TV channel they can't be bought in the UK but have to be ordered from the US who demand an extortionate amount to ship them.
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Old 27th Sep 2009, 09:37
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'trouble is, the pockets have to be accessible when sat down, regular 'cargo pant ' pockets that open at the top are no good, the opening has to be up and down at the front when stood, so that the opening is on top of the thigh when sat down.

I modify mine - think I'll patent the idea.

QED.
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