Wee Weasley Welshman
3rd Jan 2002, 22:16
Being Bristol based I happily trundle down UA25 from WAL several times a day. Nearly every time we are asked to be at or below FL110 by TALGA by London 133.6
This usually involves starting our descent at NITON and then after our spectacular dive we have about 50 track miles to spare before we would like to descend again. This costs something akin to 150kgs of AVTUR per flight. With 7 services a day Go alone are wasting over a tonne of fuel a day. Small beer in the big picture I know.
However, Cardiff 125.85 one evening told me that the FL110 TALGA requirement was "pretty old hat, not really needed these days".
Last night we got a clearance from just after IOM to TALGA and I got the impression that the coordination was with London Mil.
Can someone please throw some light on the TALGA requirement and verify that it is still necessary. In addition I am keen to know the ramifications involved in severely cutting the Wallasey corner when coming out of Belfast like I did last night. If it is merely London Mil confirming that they have nothing operating over Wales then during the non-daylight hours I would be looking for that clearance much more keenly.
No criticisms or moans implied. I am merely trying to improve my own ATC awareness.
Cheers,
WWW
This usually involves starting our descent at NITON and then after our spectacular dive we have about 50 track miles to spare before we would like to descend again. This costs something akin to 150kgs of AVTUR per flight. With 7 services a day Go alone are wasting over a tonne of fuel a day. Small beer in the big picture I know.
However, Cardiff 125.85 one evening told me that the FL110 TALGA requirement was "pretty old hat, not really needed these days".
Last night we got a clearance from just after IOM to TALGA and I got the impression that the coordination was with London Mil.
Can someone please throw some light on the TALGA requirement and verify that it is still necessary. In addition I am keen to know the ramifications involved in severely cutting the Wallasey corner when coming out of Belfast like I did last night. If it is merely London Mil confirming that they have nothing operating over Wales then during the non-daylight hours I would be looking for that clearance much more keenly.
No criticisms or moans implied. I am merely trying to improve my own ATC awareness.
Cheers,
WWW