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alosaurus
4th Nov 2001, 22:13
I have tried several times recently to raise these people on 131.625...are they still around;do they operate HF?
Completely separate issue.Just to advise you that the latest Emb145s have been fitted with new software which will execute a badly offset loc capture.At Man it will look like we are lined up on the wrong runway for 45 seconds then it performs a second capture.Poor I know;should be sorted out early next year.

Stampe
4th Nov 2001, 23:08
Portishead radio closed at least a year ago I can,t remember the exact date ,a sad loss of a group of very helpful and skilled people.My outfit now use Stockholm radio who are also very good.The relentless march of progress and economics I guess.

cossack
5th Nov 2001, 13:07
alosaurus

Just to clarify the "badly offset loc capture"...
Does this happen every time or just when we get it wrong for you?
Will it always be on the "other" side of the loc from where you came?
Why does it happen?
Why did they put it in when it doesn't work? (sounds familiar :D )

Thanks for the warning!

alosaurus
7th Nov 2001, 01:30
Stampe thanks;on what freqs can I get hold of Stockholm.
Cossack-Like all the worst snags this one is intermittent;on average it will occur on 50% of approaches.Sometimes it can hack short finals at 180 knots the next time it won't cope well with a low speed gentle intercept at 8 miles.
-It can go through the loc by about one dot and capture from the other side or not quite make it from the intercept side(the latter is at its worst when the wind is from the opposite side to intercept).On three occasions I have been in this downwind offset situation the automatics has been unable to provide a solution with the track miles remaining.Disconnecting the autopilot is not a big deal but it is not an option open to us on cat 2 approaches(so if there is much of a crosswind a longer final would help us in very poor vis).
-We had a new std of software (version 17) which corrected some faults in EICAS 16,most unfortunately this problem appeared in the latest version.EICAS 18 is due to be fitted to all a/c early next year and will sort this out.
-How it ever got released to service like this I don't know;I used to flight test 125s and BAe would never accept this kind of problem. :rolleyes:

no sig
7th Nov 2001, 01:41
Alos
Check your Jepps or Aerad supplement for Stockholm, Berna and SpeedBird London propogation charts and details

They publish: 5541 8930 11345 13342 17916 H24 USB 3494 is avbl 22-02Z and 23210 02-22Z

or Berna Radio

6643 8936 10069 13205 15046 18023 21988 23285

and for completeness

SpeedBird London

5535 8921 10072 13333 17922 21946

alosaurus
9th Nov 2001, 21:42
NO SIG-you make lazy pilot very happy ;)