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Old 1st May 2024, 15:50
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Getting a plane in the air (via a wet lease partner) is the easy part. Keeping it in the air, without pissing off customers is the real achievement.
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Old 1st May 2024, 17:52
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9H-GLOBL landed EGPK just before 1700 and this was preceded by HiFly's CL60, 9H-MIR. Still in China Southern colours.
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Old 1st May 2024, 18:45
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Originally Posted by PIKAviationTours
9H-GLOBL landed EGPK just before 1700 and this was preceded by HiFly's CL60, 9H-MIR. Still in China Southern colours.
So proof positive that the whole paint job was a fake 🤪
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Old 1st May 2024, 18:51
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Originally Posted by magyar_flyer
So proof positive that the whole paint job was a fake 🤪
No - different aircraft
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Old 1st May 2024, 18:52
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No - different aircraft
That one's still mouldering at Lourdes.
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Old 1st May 2024, 20:14
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dont we have to give a tiny bit of cynical credit for even getting to this stage? Only the second potential UK operator of A380 with aircraft on UK soil? Nice catch for history making at Prestwick…. like Elvis.
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Old 1st May 2024, 20:56
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount
dont we have to give a tiny bit of cynical credit for even getting to this stage? Only the second potential UK operator of A380 with aircraft on UK soil? Nice catch for history making at Prestwick…. like Elvis.
The word potential doing a lot of heavy lifting there...



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Old 1st May 2024, 21:15
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Only the second potential UK operator of A380 with aircraft on UK soil?
For starters, it's not a U/K operator. The a/c is on Hi Fly's AOC.

I'm still not convinced. So many, many questions.
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Old 2nd May 2024, 07:02
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Good for spotters I guess..................
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Old 2nd May 2024, 09:14
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Originally Posted by VLCfkight
So where is this A380 at present?
Seemingly at Prestwick, till Friday.
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Old 2nd May 2024, 09:17
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Only the second potential UK operator of A380 with aircraft on UK soil?
​​​​​​​Being pedantic, but that would have been VS
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Old 2nd May 2024, 10:13
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Ferrying a 380 across to Europe using an ACMI company is not creating an airline. Asquith still spouts nonsense without one iota of substance yet
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Old 2nd May 2024, 10:38
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Originally Posted by TwinAisle
Being pedantic, but that would have been VS
No the OP is correct. BA became an actual operator. Therefore Global is the second *potential* operator ​​​​​​​
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Old 2nd May 2024, 11:01
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All agree with above, the real burning of cash comes when crew (2+1 pilot and minimum 16 cabin crew per flight) is hired and salaries need to be paid and the fuel bill and handling bills etc.

On top its such a limited aircraft, onlu +/- 140 airports worldwide can take her, and +/- 400 if you pray for excemptions on class E approval.

Norwegian was in trouble when they wet leased A380 from Hifly as the 380 took more space as the 787 and the new york service got delayed every day,

Even if an airport can take the A380 its with a lot but if and maybe.. so if they ever go airborne lots of operational hurdles to take too
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Old 2nd May 2024, 11:36
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No the OP is correct. BA became an actual operator. Therefore Global is the second *potential* operator ​​​​​​​
Didn't Virgin talk about getting them, so where a potential operator?
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Old 2nd May 2024, 13:15
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Didn't Virgin talk about getting them, so where a potential operator?
They built their hangar at LHR to be A380 capable, it's massively over engineered for the fleet they ended up with after Bermuda 2 ended.
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Old 2nd May 2024, 13:31
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Here it is landing at Glasgow Prestwick.The first ever landing of an A380 at PIK. Even the Police got into the plane spotting action at 2m50s.

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Old 2nd May 2024, 13:41
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Didn't Virgin talk about getting them, so where a potential operator?
If the term ''potential UK operator'' means a UK AOC'd airline operating the aircraft for scheduled pax services (as Global have suggested is their strategy) and not some convoluted (and likely unfeasible) sleight of hand with offshore wet lease operators - then Virgin is far more worthy of the term 'potential' than Global ever will be.

Sure, today a former China Southern aircraft, now of probably somewhat indeterminate actual ownership and control, still in its original livery and cabin config, operated by HiFly, a Portuguese-Maltese (?) company and using HiFly documentation, has laboured across the Atlantic at 27,000 feet with its gear down the entire trip, and made it to Prestwick.

Triumph!

But think about it! In no really meaningful way has this actually got Global Airlines any nearer to launching passenger services to USA etc from Gatwick and to delivering its 'new ethos' for travellers 'to raise the bar in the world of aviation.'

They, or someone, now have a rust-bucket in Europe. (But wait, wasn't their first much-trumpeted aircraft already in Europe - in a field in France? They've gone awfully quiet about #1!)

There is just no way that on the current trajectory the Global 'vision' will ever be delivered. (Summarised on their comedy website as 'fast relief from the aches and pains associated with commercial air travel.')

Global's 'vision' underscore just how little they actually know about how the business operates. 'We’ve all suffered for far too long with long security queues, late flights, lost luggage, inedible food and constant poor customer service,' it rambles on.

Ah-ha. Good luck with al that. Seems they are going for the low-hanging fruit eh? Starting with the easy stuff?

I trust that whoever drafted that BS vision statement got their payment up front. I'm damn sure that HiFly will be demanding similar terms!



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Old 2nd May 2024, 13:44
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I note that the Simple Flying uses the phrase:

Global Airlines is led by serial entrepreneur and travel personality James Asquith
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Somehow I always associate the word 'serial' with a somewhat less than positive occupation than 'entrepreneur' and to be found in reports on Court proceedings in the press.

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Old 2nd May 2024, 14:26
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Didn't Virgin talk about getting them, so where a potential operator?
Virgin were actually the launch customer for the A380 but kept delaying delivery until eventually cancelling.
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