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One thing I would point out from a demand point of view is that SNN has transatlantic flights operated by all thee major alliances. BFS currently has no transatlantic hub connections. A substantial number of BFS-EWR passengers used the service to connect to other US/Canadian destinations, meaning Air Canada would benefit from these connecting passengers more so than they would if operating to SNN.
And to rephrase what owenc was trying to say; BFS has a 60 min catchment area of 1.4 million and a 120 min catchment area of 2 million people. SNN on the other hand has a 60 min catchment area of 0.58 million, and a 120 min catchment area of 0.95 million.
And let's not forget as well that when BFS was last served from Canada, the majority of passengers were Northern Irish people travelling to Canada. Belfast (and NI as a whole) is now becoming more of a tourist destination, meaning passenger numbers would be less lopsided.
And to rephrase what owenc was trying to say; BFS has a 60 min catchment area of 1.4 million and a 120 min catchment area of 2 million people. SNN on the other hand has a 60 min catchment area of 0.58 million, and a 120 min catchment area of 0.95 million.
And let's not forget as well that when BFS was last served from Canada, the majority of passengers were Northern Irish people travelling to Canada. Belfast (and NI as a whole) is now becoming more of a tourist destination, meaning passenger numbers would be less lopsided.
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Although not relevant I work for Princess Cruises and based on recent customer feedback regarding the British Isles cruises currently undertaken every 12 days round trip from Southampton on the Caribbean Princess with a maximum capacity of 3,227 passengers Belfast came top of the destinations passengers would more likely return to going by satisfaction levels followed by Dublin and Liverpool so that's just an example to show how popular Belfast is to inward tourism and can only improve in the future and many of those passengers were from Canada the USA as well as from the Far East including Chinese, Japanese and Taiwanese.
Residents of Northern Ireland should be aware of how important tourism is and how popular it is to foreign visitors and BFS should be actively marketing the airport especially regarding a return of Canadian flights.
Residents of Northern Ireland should be aware of how important tourism is and how popular it is to foreign visitors and BFS should be actively marketing the airport especially regarding a return of Canadian flights.
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You can't really compare to Shannon, it's a fairly unique market. It performs extremely well with the US market, filling flights and maintaining high yields for most months of the year. This constant comparison of "but Belfast has more passengers" is a complete denial to recognise that the markets are vastly different. Shannon compares very poorly in EU and UK routes compared to Knock and Cork, it's a unique market.
You've airports in the UK like Bristol (7.6mil) and Newcastle (4.8million) that also cannot gain US services. Worth mentioning that Newcastle has a niece of Dubai.
Every airport has a very different market, this seems to not only be ignored on here, but for the contrary to be made a point of, and a childlike tantrum of a stomp on the floor "THAT AIRPORT HAS THIS SO WHY CANT WE"
Better understanding of routes, how they're selected and how routes work, as well as markets, how they develop, how they can die, how other airports can serve them. It's not as simple as slicing off vast areas of land and saying all these people should fly from here.
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I honestly cannot think of a poster more annoying than you.
You can't really compare to Shannon, it's a fairly unique market. It performs extremely well with the US market, filling flights and maintaining high yields for most months of the year. This constant comparison of "but Belfast has more passengers" is a complete denial to recognise that the markets are vastly different. Shannon compares very poorly in EU and UK routes compared to Knock and Cork, it's a unique market.
You've airports in the UK like Bristol (7.6mil) and Newcastle (4.8million) that also cannot gain US services. Worth mentioning that Newcastle has a niece of Dubai.
Every airport has a very different market, this seems to not only be ignored on here, but for the contrary to be made a point of, and a childlike tantrum of a stomp on the floor "THAT AIRPORT HAS THIS SO WHY CANT WE"
Better understanding of routes, how they're selected and how routes work, as well as markets, how they develop, how they can die, how other airports can serve them. It's not as simple as slicing off vast areas of land and saying all these people should fly from here.
You can't really compare to Shannon, it's a fairly unique market. It performs extremely well with the US market, filling flights and maintaining high yields for most months of the year. This constant comparison of "but Belfast has more passengers" is a complete denial to recognise that the markets are vastly different. Shannon compares very poorly in EU and UK routes compared to Knock and Cork, it's a unique market.
You've airports in the UK like Bristol (7.6mil) and Newcastle (4.8million) that also cannot gain US services. Worth mentioning that Newcastle has a niece of Dubai.
Every airport has a very different market, this seems to not only be ignored on here, but for the contrary to be made a point of, and a childlike tantrum of a stomp on the floor "THAT AIRPORT HAS THIS SO WHY CANT WE"
Better understanding of routes, how they're selected and how routes work, as well as markets, how they develop, how they can die, how other airports can serve them. It's not as simple as slicing off vast areas of land and saying all these people should fly from here.
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I was reading yesterdays BT about the new advertising campaign in ROI and posters can read at the link below, but I wish BT would get a more up to date photo when they post an article about BFS. Photo shows queue for Air Transat (to Canada) and Jet2 advert ( to Blackpool). ....when did these routes end.
Maybe BFS management can send them one
Aldergrove in bid to 'poach' Dublin trade - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
Maybe BFS management can send them one
Aldergrove in bid to 'poach' Dublin trade - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
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I honestly cannot think of a poster more annoying than you.
You can't really compare to Shannon, it's a fairly unique market. It performs extremely well with the US market, filling flights and maintaining high yields for most months of the year. This constant comparison of "but Belfast has more passengers" is a complete denial to recognise that the markets are vastly different. Shannon compares very poorly in EU and UK routes compared to Knock and Cork, it's a unique market.
You've airports in the UK like Bristol (7.6mil) and Newcastle (4.8million) that also cannot gain US services. Worth mentioning that Newcastle has a niece of Dubai.
Every airport has a very different market, this seems to not only be ignored on here, but for the contrary to be made a point of, and a childlike tantrum of a stomp on the floor "THAT AIRPORT HAS THIS SO WHY CANT WE"
Better understanding of routes, how they're selected and how routes work, as well as markets, how they develop, how they can die, how other airports can serve them. It's not as simple as slicing off vast areas of land and saying all these people should fly from here.
You can't really compare to Shannon, it's a fairly unique market. It performs extremely well with the US market, filling flights and maintaining high yields for most months of the year. This constant comparison of "but Belfast has more passengers" is a complete denial to recognise that the markets are vastly different. Shannon compares very poorly in EU and UK routes compared to Knock and Cork, it's a unique market.
You've airports in the UK like Bristol (7.6mil) and Newcastle (4.8million) that also cannot gain US services. Worth mentioning that Newcastle has a niece of Dubai.
Every airport has a very different market, this seems to not only be ignored on here, but for the contrary to be made a point of, and a childlike tantrum of a stomp on the floor "THAT AIRPORT HAS THIS SO WHY CANT WE"
Better understanding of routes, how they're selected and how routes work, as well as markets, how they develop, how they can die, how other airports can serve them. It's not as simple as slicing off vast areas of land and saying all these people should fly from here.
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Landmark case could see Belfast International win £1m+ rate refund
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I see your ffs and raise you a 'Shut up' in a towie stylee
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Economic state of Northern Ireland? Look at the shape of Limerick!
Your route is subsidised by Irish American tourists, not the local economy. If you did not have the Irish disapora, you would be lucky to have a single Tranatlantic route from Shannon.
Your route is subsidised by Irish American tourists, not the local economy. If you did not have the Irish disapora, you would be lucky to have a single Tranatlantic route from Shannon.
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Limerick and Galway are doing great, growing massively in the last few years. I'd assume you're basing this on a few lovely preconceptions 
However, this is again what I mean by the petty attitude, what does it matter how Limerick is doing?
However, this is again what I mean by the petty attitude, what does it matter how Limerick is doing?
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That awful LDY-STN route is subsidized by those awful Derry people.
Seriously, get a grip Owen!
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The market is not home grown, you are relying on American tourists.
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