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Agreed TB, Norwegian are looking like shaking things up a bit. 90 minutes from Stewart into NYC isn't even that bad considering the alternative is 90 minute drive down to DUB or a flight across to GB to link in.
Another positive will surely be the shorter time spent pasing through US border checks with fewer arriving pax, effectively negating the pre-clearance advantage from RoI airports.
All good for me, but this is Negative NI we are talking about where people love the Doom!
Another positive will surely be the shorter time spent pasing through US border checks with fewer arriving pax, effectively negating the pre-clearance advantage from RoI airports.
All good for me, but this is Negative NI we are talking about where people love the Doom!
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You talk like Norwegian is the plague. I see lots of airports that Norwegian use and other airlines don't avoid those airports.
In economics, you have what are known as disturbers. Norwegian is a disturber. We need disturbers. Easyjet and Ryanair were disturbers in their time. Now it is Norwegian. The big airlines organised life so that we usually had to use their hubs, very convenient for them, maybe not so good for us. Maybe Norwegian, with a better sized aircraft, will give Bfs a better selection of routes. Not all pax want to use a routing that suits the airline more than the paying passenger. Some will pay extra to fly from Bfs and avoid the road trip to Dublin. What is clear is that Norwegian are starting to pose a bigger threat to the big boys across the atlantic, especially if they start to fly even more direct routes between smaller cities. It could have an impact on hub operations, not what the big boys want at all.
In economics, you have what are known as disturbers. Norwegian is a disturber. We need disturbers. Easyjet and Ryanair were disturbers in their time. Now it is Norwegian. The big airlines organised life so that we usually had to use their hubs, very convenient for them, maybe not so good for us. Maybe Norwegian, with a better sized aircraft, will give Bfs a better selection of routes. Not all pax want to use a routing that suits the airline more than the paying passenger. Some will pay extra to fly from Bfs and avoid the road trip to Dublin. What is clear is that Norwegian are starting to pose a bigger threat to the big boys across the atlantic, especially if they start to fly even more direct routes between smaller cities. It could have an impact on hub operations, not what the big boys want at all.
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Another positive will surely be the shorter time spent pasing through US border checks with fewer arriving pax, effectively negating the pre-clearance advantage from RoI airports.
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Or we could air on the side of optimism and hope that the people running Stewart will factor the schedule into their staff deployment?
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Double/Triple/Quadruple staff levels for what? 15 minutes.
Without giving too information, a certain airline started flying from a certain airport, and higher staffing at security for that specific flight due to the workload involved, these staff are in for several hours as a result, often with little to do, and even the amount of staff hired in is minimal.
I can't see US officials will be spending hours doing nothing, my guess would be that they'll keep staffing levels low in order to keep the operation efficent, this may result in some delays at immigration though, possibly longer than they would be at BOS/JFK at the same time.
Without giving too information, a certain airline started flying from a certain airport, and higher staffing at security for that specific flight due to the workload involved, these staff are in for several hours as a result, often with little to do, and even the amount of staff hired in is minimal.
I can't see US officials will be spending hours doing nothing, my guess would be that they'll keep staffing levels low in order to keep the operation efficent, this may result in some delays at immigration though, possibly longer than they would be at BOS/JFK at the same time.
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This lump of rock we all live on (apart from those who live in Liverpool but choose to fly from BFS rather then MAN to the US) is the island of Ireland. The six counties of Armagh, Derry, Fermanagh, Down, Antrim and Tyrone form Northern Ireland: as in "Great Britain and Northern Ireland"! The rest of the island of Ireland is the Republic of Ireland.
8 out of 10 cuthere, you would have got 10 out of 10 if you had of spelt Derry correctly as in Londonderry, but well done anyway.
As for the arrival of Norwegian at Belfast - great news. A lot of people when going to the east coast, aren't necessary visiting New York or Boston but embark on a fly drive holiday. These smaller airports will be a great alternative and provide a niche above the other 'big' airports in the area. Less traffic competitive car hire and one road out of the airport rather than the complicated road networks within these large airports. Also these airports will be more convenient to use for inbound traffic who live on the right side of these American cities. I think the operation will be a success. All we need now is a 3-4 day year round operation to JFK, thrice weekly seasonal to Toronto, twice weekly April-October Orlando, LHR, Dubai daily, 8 more European cities EMA, Aberdeen and LBA. Once this is achieved BFS would be complete. Dublin can have the rest - happy days!
8 out of 10 cuthere, you would have got 10 out of 10 if you had of spelt Derry correctly as in Londonderry, but well done anyway.
As for the arrival of Norwegian at Belfast - great news. A lot of people when going to the east coast, aren't necessary visiting New York or Boston but embark on a fly drive holiday. These smaller airports will be a great alternative and provide a niche above the other 'big' airports in the area. Less traffic competitive car hire and one road out of the airport rather than the complicated road networks within these large airports. Also these airports will be more convenient to use for inbound traffic who live on the right side of these American cities. I think the operation will be a success. All we need now is a 3-4 day year round operation to JFK, thrice weekly seasonal to Toronto, twice weekly April-October Orlando, LHR, Dubai daily, 8 more European cities EMA, Aberdeen and LBA. Once this is achieved BFS would be complete. Dublin can have the rest - happy days!
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I'd tend to go with the Idea of wait and see with things like security queues. It's not that many years ago before T2 in particular DUB was a disaster for security queues, and I'm talking regardless of destination as opposed to arrival security. I flew STN to BFS some weeks back and queued for about 45 mins and saw the most appalling, rude and unprofessional security I've ever seen and really quite racist - it made me so proud of our guys on the outbound at BFS and I'd say same of BHD. It can be slow doing things like immigration at small airports, but it can also be much quicker, it's down to them how much of a success they want to make of this.
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Good to see all the Dubliners crawling out of their holes and slagging off the arrival of Norwegian at BFS. They have been doing the same on Cork and Shannon threads. I would recommend a piece written by a Munster TD Alan Kelly in the Irish Examiner on the threat of Dublin Airport and it Trojan Horse tactics on Norwegian. Notice as well no bragging from the Dubs on NI traffic increase in 2016, perhaps the tide has turned!
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Good to see all the Dubliners crawling out of their holes and slagging off the arrival of Norwegian at BFS. They have been doing the same on Cork and Shannon threads. I would recommend a piece written by a Munster TD Alan Kelly in the Irish Examiner on the threat of Dublin Airport and it Trojan Horse tactics on Norwegian. Notice as well no bragging from the Dubs on NI traffic increase in 2016, perhaps the tide has turned!
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West Brit and Cutters, I take it you were referring to me in your post. The reason why I'm travelling from BFS, although I certainly do live in liverpool is the fact that our friends who are travelling with us are getting married the weekend before we go. They, like my family live in Belfast and I'm in Belfast every other week. I have easyJet staff travel to thank for that. Simples.
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I wouldn't consider myself a Dublin naysayer being honest, the Norwegian services are not comparable to a proper NYC service. That being said beggers can't be choosers, so hopefully the service does well, but with high prices and no baggage, no meals and ending up in the middle of nowhere, the service doesn't have much going for it at the moment.
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With regards to the announcement of another North American route could it be Virgin?
Their Orlando service has done very well over the years and is an airline already very well know by northern Irish punters
Or maybe the Marketing team is so good they've got Americam Airlines and threw in an offer they can't refuse for BA to come back up he road fly 4 a321 into airport at non restrictive times and allow them to free up a few slots they can use else where ( I joke I joke however not impossible )
Their Orlando service has done very well over the years and is an airline already very well know by northern Irish punters
Or maybe the Marketing team is so good they've got Americam Airlines and threw in an offer they can't refuse for BA to come back up he road fly 4 a321 into airport at non restrictive times and allow them to free up a few slots they can use else where ( I joke I joke however not impossible )
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8 out of 10 cuthere, you would have got 10 out of 10 if you had of spelt Derry correctly as in Londonderry, but well don
Norwegian will have done their homework and decided BFS is worth the gamble. Time will tell, and good luck to them.
Realistically if there is another US service in the offing, would a B752 to a hub like JFK not stand more chance of success than a say 2 weekly A330 to MCO or similar? Especially if it gets the 3 million a year offered to UA?
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Going to ignore all you yaps and say I'm actually looking forward to a cheap flight to Boston.
BFS have done well in getting a new US flight. When I was flying home in November with UA a BFS staffer told me VS was interested but wanted money spent on traffic connections. Obviously NI doesnt spend money on reasonable things like that... so I'm chuffed Norwegian has stepped in.
BFS have done well in getting a new US flight. When I was flying home in November with UA a BFS staffer told me VS was interested but wanted money spent on traffic connections. Obviously NI doesnt spend money on reasonable things like that... so I'm chuffed Norwegian has stepped in.
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Norweigan Air's new Belfast-US route sells 2,000 tickets in 24 hours - The Irish News
Well done. Hope it continues.
Well done. Hope it continues.