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Old 2nd Feb 2013, 05:15
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Why do Vueling fly from Heathrow rather than Gatwick ? Struggling to see a commercial reason for the extra costbase to Vueling when they are not a network carrier. Yes, I know Heathrow gets higher yields, but places like A Coruna, Florence and Mallorca seem rather more leisure centric...

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Old 2nd Feb 2013, 08:46
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Perhaps because LHR lacks those leisure centric flights, they do well on them since there isn't really a direct competitor, unlike the huge list at LGW.
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Old 2nd Feb 2013, 09:40
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I would suggest that the Vueling LHR slots will find their way to BA once the full takeover is complete. Slot sitting for the meantime and will then transfer to LGW in the fullness of time.
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LHR has a healthy % of leisure traffic...most of the time it likes to pretend its purely business.

Utter garbage !

Up till 2 years major organisations like SAGA who have a large network of holiday packages shipped everybody through LHR !

Many an argument with the Mother In Law who was going to Munich, she lives North Manchester, despite telling her that she shoud fly from Manchester she was told by the agent , "oh its only a small airport, there are no flights from up there to Germany"

BA, AirCanada, Singpore Holidays, Virgin Holidays etc etc etc ad nauseum

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Old 3rd Feb 2013, 17:12
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"We have the big EK bus(EK15,16) to look forward to on 26/3 again"

Am I correct in saying that is the Emirates Airbus A380 midday flight coming in to Gatwick again?...... If so that's great news.

Also is there any news yet of when Airbus A380's will start regularly using Gatwick?... hopefully sometime in 2013.

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Old 3rd Feb 2013, 18:43
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Well at least with Garuda they have had the experience at LGW after previously serving the airport for 23 years so they may stand a good chance of staying at LGW along with Emirates."

Will GA being doing CKG-LGW-CKG non-stop this time around?

Will BA be opening up an LHR-CKG-LHR route ahead of GA to scoop up the premium business and connecting pax?

Is the route busy enough for 2 carriers, now or in the future?


Quote: "Why do Vueling fly from Heathrow rather than Gatwick ? Struggling to see a commercial reason for the extra costbase to Vueling when they are not a network carrier. Yes, I know Heathrow gets higher yields, but places like A Coruna, Florence and Mallorca seem rather more leisure centric... "

Probably because they have the slots, they're like gold dust, you know!


Quote: "I would suggest that the Vueling LHR slots will find their way to BA once the full takeover is complete. Slot sitting for the meantime and will then transfer to LGW in the fullness of time."

Is this a done deal already?

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Old 3rd Feb 2013, 19:59
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Assuming everything goes as planned, IAG expects to secure full ownership of Vueling in Q2 of this year.
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Old 3rd Feb 2013, 20:27
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Oh Yes......

Just a one off again apparently(at request of LGW who want to try out their new A380 gate at Nth Terminal!)...read that the other day on the local aviation society blog!
If all goes well that day..we can only hope the big bus appears soon after
It was nice that when there was chaos in the snow recently at LHR ,EK 29 was rescheduled to here for 2 days(as a 777)..could do with an extra flight,EK is always busy!
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Old 3rd Feb 2013, 20:33
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Is that the new gate over the bridge?
I know BA don't like using Gates 102 and 111 with the B777s as it impacts on wheelchair users and mobility impaired peeps. An A388's worth of punters across the bridge is perhaps not ideal? Be great to see the big bus again though.
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Old 3rd Feb 2013, 21:08
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Great news about the A380 visiting Gatwick again on 26th March 2013.

Thanks Charley B

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Old 3rd Feb 2013, 21:18
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Quote: "Many an argument with the Mother In Law who was going to Munich, she lives North Manchester, despite telling her that she shoud fly from Manchester she was told by the agent , "oh its only a small airport, there are no flights from up there to Germany""

That's depressing, hope this is not a common view among travel agents, the business community, and the public at large!

If it is, it explains in part why carriers believe that they cannot make money from operations at large UK airports, other than LHR.

Managements at MAN, BHX, GLA, and the rest have much work to do!

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Old 4th Feb 2013, 05:57
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Quote: "Many an argument with the Mother In Law who was going to Munich, she lives North Manchester, despite telling her that she shoud fly from Manchester she was told by the agent , "oh its only a small airport, there are no flights from up there to Germany"
Getting a bit off topic, but with my family and their friends in South Manchester the perception is the opposite - they expect to be able to fly to anywhere out of MAN and are surprised/disappointed when they can't!
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Old 4th Feb 2013, 07:28
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Not sure which is the 380 gate....i only got info off website of GAS
will be nice to see that again here...please no fog(or snow) that day!!
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Old 4th Feb 2013, 14:00
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Gate 110 is the new A380 gate.
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Old 4th Feb 2013, 15:22
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Thank You x
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Old 7th Feb 2013, 18:27
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Quote: "Getting a bit off topic, but with my family and their friends in South Manchester the perception is the opposite - they expect to be able to fly to anywhere out of MAN and are surprised/disappointed when they can't!"

Quite right! get the hump if unable to fly from LHR!

At least they're being positive, they have a "glass half-full" attitude.
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Old 9th Feb 2013, 15:32
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Aegean appear to be dropping their daily Athens flight from the 30th March. Larnaca however is unaffected and the daily flight will be transferred from LHR on the 31st March.

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Old 10th Feb 2013, 08:51
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Garuda will be flying non-stop to Jakarta

they'll be using a new 777-300ER - they have 4 on order

Garuda to spread its wings to London
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Old 10th Feb 2013, 09:53
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What's the total flight time and likely routing for this?
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Old 10th Feb 2013, 15:57
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Not known but probably much the same as London - Singapore as far as the east coast of India then down to Sumatra and onwards to Jakarta

Great circle is 7284 miles cp 6765 London - Singapore so it should be OK eastbound but could be 15-16 hours west bound in winter
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