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Old 23rd Apr 2012, 14:58   #1281 (permalink)
 
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Whilst I understand & in many ways agree with your views on what happens when a business invests for the short term, I think in this instance you need to take into account what GIP has done at LGW. Maybe they plan to keep LGW for more than 7 years, I don't know. Either way, I think there may be a requirement to be open minded for now.
Let's meet back here in 7 years & see who needs to eat their words!!
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Old 23rd Apr 2012, 15:47   #1282 (permalink)
 
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At last, an end to the uncertainty. EDI will continue down the route of being Scotland's LCC hub (like Gatwick or Luton or Stansted) and BAA can polish their favourite toy - continuing the process of making GLA the long haul hub for Scotland - sort of like a mini LHR.

Everybody is a winner - the EDI fans will keep their hard fought for title of 'mair passengers than the Weegies' and GLA fans will see the long haul portfolio grow as EDI doesnt have the infastructure, or the space to do anything but grow LCC and UltraLCC destinations. Result all round methinks!
Surely new owners at EDI will resolve the problems with the airport and will do what is needed to attract new routes, be they long or shorthaul. Space at EDI is not really running out, but a much better use of the space they have would be a good idea for GIP to look at.
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Old 23rd Apr 2012, 17:22   #1283 (permalink)
 
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By all accounts GIP has done Gatwick proud. If they are as good for EDI, it can only improve. And surely it will start to compete (properly) with GLA. Then the real shortcomings of BAA will become apparent.
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Old 23rd Apr 2012, 21:44   #1284 (permalink)
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Interesting point, commit aviation, and I do hope that my world weary, cynical view is confounded. Since I have been part of this forum for more than seven years, I dare say that I shall still be here in another seven. So, unless I've already been shipped as cargo to the crematorium, let's review in 2019.
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Old 24th Apr 2012, 17:23   #1285 (permalink)
 
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OLT Express will start a weekly service using an A320 between EDI-Lodz from 29 October. Operates on Sundays. A replacment for FR dropping the route at the end of the summer.
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 18:59   #1286 (permalink)
 
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OLT also to add 2 weekly to Bydgoszcz from October.
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 00:13   #1287 (permalink)
 
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OLT Express

OLT Express launched operations on 02 April 12, initially with 10 domestic routes within Poland. The airline is expanding its operation starting May 2012, and has announced the expansion to continental Europe starting 29 October 12 from 5 Polish bases (on-top of 23 domestic routes it will be serving by then);
Warsaw - 17 new European routes with 75 weekly flights all starting from 29 October 12
Gdansk - 13 new European routes with 57 weekly flights all starting from 29 October 12
Bydgoszcz - 12 new European routes with 25 weekly flights all starting from 29 October 12
Rzeszow - 7 new European routes with 18 weekly flights all starting from 29 October 12
Lodz - 5 new European routes with 8 weekly flights starting all starting from 29 October 12

The new routes to the UK & IRE will be:
BRS-BZG - 2x Weekly
LPL-BZG - 2x Weekly
NCL-BZG - 2x Weekly
LGW-BZG - 2x Weekly
LGW-GDN - 1x Daily
LGW-WAW - 1x Daily
ORK-BZG - 2x Weekly
EDI-LCJ - 1x Weekly
EDI-BZG - 2x Weekly

They seem to be pretty sorted, especially as it doesn't look like that they will be going head to head on many WZZ or RYR routes at all, and with cheap flights starting at 29.99 one way inclusive of 16kg baggage allowance and 8kg cabin baggage allowance. (also 50% discount applies for pax aged 2 to 18), then hopefully they will do very well.
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Old 29th Apr 2012, 08:15   #1288 (permalink)
 
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Everybody is a winner - the EDI fans will keep their hard fought for title of 'mair passengers than the Weegies' and GLA fans will see the long haul portfolio grow as EDI doesnt have the infastructure, or the space to do anything but grow LCC and UltraLCC destinations. Result all round methinks!
When I heard that GIP had purchased EDI my first thoughts were, "Thank God, we will now get rid of this EDI v GLA nonsense forever". Can we expect a more sensible GIP v BAA? My heart sunk when reading the above quote, it looks like the old battles will continue with imagined elitism (size and quality matters).
Let's hope GIP competes on all fronts and boots this childishness into touch forever.
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Old 29th Apr 2012, 11:23   #1289 (permalink)
 
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Just heard from ground agt that 2nd NYC summer flight will stop at beginning of september. This usually operates through till end of October. Any ideas why so early an axe this year?
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Old 29th Apr 2012, 13:14   #1290 (permalink)
 
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good job - I dont like this GLA vs EDI nonsense either - but look back over your 567 post Joe and see who really keeps it going! PS You are welcome to the last word on the matter - I will retain my dignity and will close this subject for ever.
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Old 29th Apr 2012, 15:52   #1291 (permalink)
 
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Just heard from ground agt that 2nd NYC summer flight will stop at beginning of september. This usually operates through till end of October. Any ideas why so early an axe this year?
Could be they can't justify the service after September, although it is alarming to see them cutting it at the start and not the end of the month. Perhaps advanced bookings have not been strong enough to justify the second service continuing so long after the summer holiday season?

Are they also dropping a few flights per week like they did last year? I think from about August on wards they reduced it to 11 flights per week, dropping the 109 randomly until the end of October.
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Old 29th Apr 2012, 16:36   #1292 (permalink)
 
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Old 29th Apr 2012, 20:24   #1293 (permalink)
 
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Just heard from ground agt that 2nd NYC summer flight will stop at beginning of september. This usually operates through till end of October. Any ideas why so early an axe this year?
It's actually the start of October it stops, as opposed to what is normally the end of October. There are also various days throughout the summer when the later flight is non op. Passenger demand has never been an issue so I can only imagine APD is obviously an ongoing problem hitting yields. I also think they took too long to get the later flight on sale to the general public this year losing out on potential pax who would have already made other travel plans or booked onto the earlier flight.
Plus the new UA are pretty ruthless when it comes to cost cutting measures and EDI isn't immune, it's just part of an ongoing trend which includes GLA going to 6x weekly from the start of September instead of end of October, CPH being axed completely, FCO suspended atleast for winter...
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Old 29th Apr 2012, 21:29   #1294 (permalink)
 
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GLA isn't even daily in early September??? Are you sure?
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Old 29th Apr 2012, 22:44   #1295 (permalink)
 
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GLA isn't even daily in early September??? Are you sure?
Yep it's a recent change in one of their last schedule updates. No Wednesday flight from start of September.
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Old 9th May 2012, 21:01   #1296 (permalink)
 
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Oh dear..here we go again.

Ryanair takes the axe to Edinburgh hub - AviationPros.com
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Old 9th May 2012, 21:16   #1297 (permalink)
 
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Was this not announced a while ago now.
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Old 9th May 2012, 21:19   #1298 (permalink)
 
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IBEX to MAD

Iberia Express will operate a 2 x Weekly service from Madrid to Edinburgh for a period of about 6 weeks starting 22nd July

20th to 29th July

I22690 MAD 09:00 EDI 10:45 320 37

I22691 EDI 11:20 MAD 15:05 320 37

02nd to 30th August

I22690 MAD 09:00 EDI 10:45 320 7
I22690 MAD 19:45 EDI 21:30 320 4

I22691 EDI 11:20 MAD 15:05 320 7
I22691 EDI 22:05 MAD 01:50 320 4
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Old 10th May 2012, 11:08   #1299 (permalink)
 
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Was this not announced a while ago now.
Yes, it is old news - the date on the article is April 12th.
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Old 10th May 2012, 11:17   #1300 (permalink)
 
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Yes, it is old news - the date on the article is April 12th.
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