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Norman's Agressor

Old 23rd May 2018, 09:13
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Norman's Agressor

Really enjoying the Jeremy Thorp thing on the telly but wondered what was the name of the airline pilot who missed Norm & shot the dog ? Oooh, and where is he now ? No not the dog but the assassin ? I recall going in for the Aer Lingus first stage selection in the late 70's. Big group were about to start the aptitude tests (paper & pencil speed tests based on RAF WW2 but this time we all had ATPL & type ratings), AND, in walked the Norm Assassin. Often wondered how he got on ; (me & my mates, BA group of ten, all failed ).
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Old 23rd May 2018, 10:12
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Andrew Newton - subsequently changed his name to Hann Redwin
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Old 23rd May 2018, 18:47
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Being known as "The hit man from Crufts" couldn't have helped his subsequent aviation career!
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Old 24th May 2018, 03:17
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Also known as Andrew Gino Newton.
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Old 24th May 2018, 06:58
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Amazingly he was interviewed by Pilot magazine during a visit to Redhill.

Review: Redhill Airfield | Airfield profile stories from around Britain | Pilot Magazine

Don't think Nick Bloom realised who he had found............
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Old 24th May 2018, 11:38
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Are we talking about the same Hann Redwin ?
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Old 25th May 2018, 10:43
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Met Andy at Oxford ATS back in 1971 when he was doing his CPL. Just an ordinary sort of chap really. Who’d have guessed he couldn’t shoot straight ??
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Old 25th May 2018, 11:41
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Are we talking about the same Hann Redwin ?
What are the chances that the UK has two people both called Hann Redwin and both having aviation connections? Hann 1 being and Ex graduate of CoAT and failed airline pilot and Hann 2 owning a motor glider, years later, at Redhill.

It's clearly the same bloke.
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Old 25th May 2018, 16:59
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He was known in Air London as 'Snaz' - due to his flamboyant style of dress, including the 'Herr Flick of the Gestapo' black leather ankle-length coat. He had moved on by the time I joined in March 1974, but he was still much talked about. He got himself even more talked about a year and a half later, of course.

Quoting from the late Ken Fitzroy's book No Time on the Ground: "I don't recall the ins and outs of the case but I do know that Snaz went to jail, for two years I believe, from where we had frequent extraordinary letters on notepaper headed 'HM Prison Pentonville.' After this episode we lost track of him."
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Old 28th May 2018, 06:57
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I really wonder if Andrew Newton ever really worked as an airline pilot either before or after the shooting, but for the press it made a better story.

Talking of attempted murders, does any know of the whereabouts of pilot and flying instructor, Dennis Saunders found guilty in the 'Whybrow attempted ;lawnmower murder', who got ten years, but was latter aquitted on appeal. I think he was from the Suffolk area.
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Old 28th May 2018, 07:43
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I really wonder if Andrew Newton ever really worked as an airline pilot either before or after the shooting, but for the press it made a better story.
I'm sure someone at the time told me he had flown the Herald, but not sure who for.
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Old 28th May 2018, 08:59
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He applied to me at a secret airfield in Norfolk but we didn't have any vacancies...
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Old 28th May 2018, 09:07
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The outstanding thing for me about the case was the post-Thorpe trial front page of Private Eye. Underneath a photograph of Thorpe was the headline, "Buggers can't be losers".
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Old 28th May 2018, 10:15
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Lovely stuff since I opened the discussion, Spilled me coffee several times. But, Redhilphil, you got me ! Clearing up the spill over the laptop ! Still seems to work. This might morph into a whole new discussion about Airline Pilots who went the wrong side of the law. Don;t get me started on the Lady in the lake episode, circa 1979.
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Old 28th May 2018, 11:40
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yup, met him @ BAF on a Herald course in the 70's. He disappeared after a couple of days after he was 'found out' by presumably the one manager that read the papers. Also saw him @ the Aer Lingus intelligence test in London where he wore a bright green suit. I failed spectacularly like apparently others... He did not appear to be the same person as depicted by the actor portraying him but I have never been to a Blackpool strip club and drank 16 pints so who knows how one would behave...My wife asked me whether I know of any other pilot / hit men, certainly an unusual career path even by the standards of the sometimes eccentric world we live in.
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Old 28th May 2018, 18:41
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Try BIA Herald.
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Old 28th May 2018, 19:07
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Yes, certainly BIA Herald. Based Blackpool IIRC.
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Old 28th May 2018, 20:12
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Apparently he was then implicated in a death on the Eiger!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...h-1403009.html

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Old 28th May 2018, 20:40
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A clip from the trial
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Old 2nd Jun 2018, 06:24
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In the news today, there is some doubt whether Andrew newton is dead or alive?

Jeremy Thorpe 'hit-man might not be dead', police admit - BBC News
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