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King-Air Flying Club. Biggin Hill (Late '70's)

Old 11th Aug 2010, 21:36
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King Air

Hi Brian..that is sad news indeed...i think that everyone that Flew with King Air thought that they were part of an institution,and not just a Flying Club.It was all very Personal,I flew a lot of hours with Gordon,one of the most likeable people it has been my pleasure to meet.My wife absolutely adored him.He was such a shy unasuming man,i had difficulty in getting a picture of him,i managed it after hopping over to Stapleford Tawny in India Oscar,which i have to this day.I used to have great fun with Lilian,who was quite a character.I used to give Eileen a lift home in the Evenings,she/they lived along Sevenoaks Way,and always wanted to be dropped off at the Junction halfway towards the A20.My wife and i have a lot of fond memories of my Flying Days at Biggin.But i am certain that electing to join King Air made them all the more pleasurable...thanks to Gordon and Lillian...and of course Richard Elles,Cyril Knight,and i think it was George?on the Simulator.God bless them all for such a wonderful tiime......Bill Killick
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Old 13th Aug 2010, 11:28
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... Does anyone know if the director(s) of Kingair had any connections
with an office equipment company - SOUTHERN OFFICE MACHINES -
based in Croydon - with whom I had some dealings with when they were based in Wallington in the late fifties or sixties ?

- Brian - ex G BCVI 172J
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Old 13th Aug 2010, 13:17
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Southern Office Machines was owned and run by George Stewart IIRC.

The group of clubs in the spot that king Air lay was a happy collection. EFG, Sportair, BHFC, dear Ron and his 150 and couple of others whose names are lost in the mists. But VERY good days.

I do remember Kev and Barbara. Kev set me up for my IR, which I got. One special instructor was Kev.
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Old 25th Aug 2010, 22:51
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Greetings from Vancouver Canada.
Just come across this interesting site. I recognise so many names, some still with us
and some sadly passed.
I learnt to fly at Air Touring Rallye Club in 1968/69. one runway was non radio.
The most fun I ever had in my fourty years of flying.
My original CFI was Colin Dyne, his wife was my favourite instructor Margaret.
Anybody remember the names, Shires,or Quirk they taught on Beagle Pups, I believe from Surrey and Kent Flying school.
Cheers
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Old 26th Aug 2010, 09:14
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Shires and Quirk were with Flairavia I seem to remember.
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Old 26th Aug 2010, 14:39
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photos of Biggin

Dear Bill you gave Eileen a lift to her road where she has lived since 1943 my brother Geoff who learnt to fly at Surrey and Kent FC in 1968, and I will celebrate Mum's 90th on Saturday 28th August. I have scanned photos of Biggin Hill including Gordon Lilian and Cyril at flickr Brian MBE I hope that you can find them via a search engine. I have captioned them fairly accurately but if you notice any errors please correct then with me. Regards Brian

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Old 26th Aug 2010, 15:39
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photos of Biggin Hill 1960-70s

I have scanned Bill and Eileen's photos but my attempt to link to them was not successful try 'flickr Brian MBE' in a search engine which might work
Cyril Knight, Gordon and Lilian, lots of Cessnas
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Old 26th Aug 2010, 17:06
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Flairavia

Many thanks for that. Totally forget about that school.
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Old 26th Aug 2010, 17:47
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Photos

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Old 26th Aug 2010, 18:10
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Q S Aviation

Quirk and Shires went on to form Q S Aviation.

I knew David Quirk at Stapleford after Q S Aviation.

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Old 27th Aug 2010, 09:42
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King Air Bill Barnes

Glad you liked the photos. Bill made lots of 16mm movies of the flights he took with Gordon. A special reel has the details to Toussus with maps of route, scenes of France from the air, and the Cessna on the apron. He also filmed the first Red Arrows display in 1965 at the Air Fair. I think when you were learning Dad was not flying anymore he stopped in 1975 but was so mad keen for the life at Biggin he continued doing the Bowser and recording the fuel in each plane. Gordon paid Bill and Eileen up till 1980 and I think they were glad to be central to operations. It was their happiest 15 years. Sorry to hear that you were ignored by the Kings. In May 1974 Gordon thought they would change direction and buy a hotel in Guensey. They flew there and Dad filmed the trip. I think I have copied all their photos on flickr so no more to see I'm afraid
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Old 27th Aug 2010, 15:36
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Does anyone know if the director(s) of Kingair had any connections
with an office equipment company - SOUTHERN OFFICE MACHINES -
based in Croydon - with whom I had some dealings with when they were based in Wallington in the late fifties or sixties ?

- Brian - ex G BCVI 172J
Brian good grief!!

You used to let me and a couple of other young pilots fly VI back around 1979. Lovely aeroplane immaculately looked after. I seem to remember that you has a 150 G AWSD for a while as well.

Pete
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Old 27th Aug 2010, 21:38
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PprunePop, I am Barbara and Kevin Hills niece. Kevin is still flying, now a 777 captain with Lauda/Austrian Airlines. He is still a damn good pilot too.
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Old 28th Aug 2010, 12:08
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Angel Bill and Eileen Barnes

Hello Brian,Yes i did used to give Eileen a Lift Home from King Air,i remember she was always wishing that she could Drive a Car,I offered to let her have a drive of mine,but she was always too nervous.I like her very much,and used to pull her leg on the way home,she was//is a very nice Lady....I would love to see some pictures of Eileen and Bill,Gordon and Lillian,,i have tried the Link but that didnt work.Would you try and send them to me on an E-Mail attachment.My Mail is : [email protected] have some B/W pictures of some of the King Air Fleet.I used to fly JX most of the tiime,i did Hire JV once for a trip to the I-O-W...with Gordon P1..After we took of,fully loaded with My Wife and Children,we set Heading and Height,according to Gordon,take a Left at the Midhurst Beacon,and keep above Gatwick...then he went to sleep,or appeared to.I loved Flying JV,the trip to the Island took about 30 Mins..It was great the Following Saturday when Gordon came dead on time,landed at Bembridge,picked us all up,and then i had the pleasure of Flying JV back to Biggin...and How much did the whole escapade cost us......90.00.and one hour as P2 on JV....When it was Orange .Best wishes to all old K/A Flyers...Bill Killick
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Old 1st Sep 2010, 13:53
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Eileen drove eventually

Eileen Barnes did learn to drive in 1979 and when Bill became ill in 1981 this was an invaluable skill allowing them to continue to get about and she drove to Wales to visit Bill's brother Fred and wife Helen for a summer break. In 1966 they flew to Swansea for a visit to them in G-APSZ with Bert Coe, when flying with Surrey and Kent FC. Hope you received the photos

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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 21:25
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Eileen and Bill barnes

Hello Brian,How nice to hear that Eileen took the plunge and got her Driving Licence.She was so keen to be able to drive,and i used to do everything i could to encourage her to have some lessons.I knew she had it in her,and i am so pleased that she had the courage to Get it.You say that it was in 1979,i had moved to the I-O-w in 1977,so i missed the Celebration.I'm sure they would have had one at the Club.I will never forget the Friends that i made at King Air,and i would like to think that they may remember me.Do you think that Eileen would remember,if you asked her ? ..Send her my Best Wishes....I did not recieve the Pictures,but i will keep looking in the Spam etc,in case they go astray.Regards too all Bill Killick
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Old 20th Oct 2010, 19:52
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King Air....Biggin Hill

Hello Brian...iis there any chance that you could Mail me some of the pictures of King AIr...Gordon,Lillian,Eileen and Bill...i would love to have some reminders of the lovely tiimes i had there..Best Wishes to you ..Bill Killick..: [email protected]
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Old 21st Oct 2010, 10:53
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Qso Pete Vino Collapso - G Bcvi

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Hello Pete

Memory dimmed over the years so apologies for not placing faces
with names - Yes G BCVI was one of the nicer a/c - Sorry tale about its
disposal - After sale to a Halfpenny Green based aerial photo co. we heard that later it went to S Africa where it was involved in some kind of accident and write off.

79 being the SLAC days faces and friends included Eddie who was a
very good pilot - Eddie could be somewhat withdrawn and perhaps aloof - but nice fellow when you got to know him - He paled up with another Brian -
Brian was involved in a prang in Bob and Chimes Stewarts MS880
Rallye - all of whom flew with me or piloted CVI at one time or other.

Yes my wife Wendy had G A WSD cessna150 - which we brought
from Bill Wonderlich - Bill was also a part time air mech possibly
with Singh (Falcon Aviation) or with Bill Meyer aviation. We sold
WSD to someone in the Little Snoring area - that too became an
accident write off.

Best wishes from Brian

...
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Old 2nd Dec 2010, 07:20
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Biggin Hill Flying Club

was "run" by George Stewart.

With a happy band of brothers.

My father took me there on school holiday as they offered a trial lesson, I hated it, but 13,000 hrs later think I was too hasty in that assesment.

Saturday and Sundays were never the same till the gen set was powered up, and tea brewed.

Did my instrument flying in King Air IR sim, but also remember did some time in the the LINK in the Hanger Block, close to Dr Moyses, weekend office, and the cafe, (ritual lunch: egg and chips).

The family bought a Single Com (PA24-250)(G-ASDN) from Express Aviation, based it at Biggin for several years, and then relocated to LGW...... (free landing).

JB was based there in those days, and he and my father did stupid things in the PA24-250. But as they say this is different story.

glf

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Old 20th Dec 2011, 22:36
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David Quirk still goes in the Old Jail pub now and again if you want a number I'll try and get it for you, e-mail [email protected]
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