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Old 6th Jan 2016, 21:42
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Carried over from AH&N Luton airport page re Doves. As I recall the 2 Fairflight ones were SUW, original fin, and TGK, swept fin. Now which one was it that Bob Gibbs landed at a disused airfield North of Aberdeen having got low on petrol coming back from Stavanger ? They were thirsty beasts and needed careful engine management to keep the fuel burns right.
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Old 7th Jan 2016, 02:16
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That evening we were having a bit of a do at the Pegasus Flying Club when Gibbs arrived fresh from his out of petrol alighting. It's of course a hazy memory but I do recall that at the end of the night we used a wheelbarrow to convey Captain Gibbs to his room at the Skean Dhu. Happy days.
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Old 16th Sep 2016, 16:27
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Hi does anyone remember my dad Tim Doyle and my brother Richard Doyle from Biggin Hill back in the 70's and 80's?

Be good to hear from anyone who does :-)
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Old 17th Sep 2016, 18:58
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Tim & Richard Doyle

Hi David

I knew both your Dad and Richard well... I had the office next door to Tim's West Essex Aero Club back in the 60's. I was shocked to hear of Richard's death - very sad... I was also told that Tim had passed away some time ago. I hadn't actually seen Tim for many years though.

I exchanged emails with your sister, Kathy, back in 2013 and sent her some photos of your Dad with a Chipmunk aircraft that I received from one of Tim's old club members.

Both Tim's and Richard's names appear on the Roll of Honour at Biggin Hill Reunited

all the best
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Old 21st Sep 2016, 23:19
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Originally Posted by Rhys Perraton View Post
Carried over from AH&N Luton airport page re Doves. As I recall the 2 Fairflight ones were SUW, original fin, and TGK, swept fin. Now which one was it that Bob Gibbs landed at a disused airfield North of Aberdeen having got low on petrol coming back from Stavanger ? They were thirsty beasts and needed careful engine management to keep the fuel burns right.
I was an ATCO at Aberdeen at the time & I recall that it was a Heron (G-ANNO ?) which force landed at night & was found next morning to have chosen just about the only space available between the Royal Navy LF aerials at Banff , was it ? Very lucky outcome.
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Old 22nd Sep 2016, 12:22
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I remember G-ANNO very well.

I had the port inboard prop separate in flight over the Channel en-route Aberdeen to Barcelona. Ended up with an unscheduled night stop in Jersey for a change of underpants.
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Old 22nd Sep 2016, 22:06
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Pretty aircraft, though the dihedral on the tail made it wag like a Viscount.

I was about to do an air test on one of Peter's Aviation Herons when I noticed a vertical dark line on the sump, also of #2 engine. I asked for someone to check the switches off and got a couple of chaps to heave on the prop left and right without turning it. The thin line of shiny oil oozed in and out of a split in the crank case that ran from top to bottom between pots 3 and 4.

Although I always enjoyed a bit of excitement, I have a feeling this might have been a tad too much of an adventure.

Aircraft G-ANNO (1954 De Havilland DH-114 Heron 1B/C C/N 14049) Photo by Peter Nicholson (Photo ID: AC286075)
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Old 4th Nov 2016, 17:00
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Tim & Richard Doyle

Worked for Tim as an instructor back in the 70's.
Also did most of Richard's training.
Very happy times for me.

Sadly, I attended both funerals.
Miss, Richard as we had good memories.
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Old 6th Apr 2017, 21:38
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I spotted bill hewson in brighton a few weeks back.
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Old 12th Sep 2017, 23:07
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Originally Posted by daviddoyle123 View Post
Hi does anyone remember my dad Tim Doyle and my brother Richard Doyle from Biggin Hill back in the 70's and 80's?

Be good to hear from anyone who does :-)
Not been on the forum for a couple of years so missed this post.

David, I never met your brother Richard but I knew your father well. On one occasion when he was a bit strapped for cash, I took a half share of the Chipmunk (G-AMXL) to help him out. This was a particularly well-balanced example of the type but was beginning to look a little dowdy in Norman Niblock's old livery. Many years later when living in Malta, I met a chap who claimed to have lived next door to your father's family.

I remember Tim with fondness. And his always immaculate white hanky gripping the prop when hand starting an engine. Happy days.
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Old 29th Mar 2019, 15:16
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Fairflight Biggin Hill


Would anyone remember my dad, Mike Hogarth? He was a driver for Fairflight around 1988 I think.

He sadly passed away in 2000, but I'd love to know if anyone remembers him.

Thank you.

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Old 4th Apr 2019, 00:54
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Hello all from Rhys

Hello Biggin and Fairflighters, thought I would put out my current e.mail [email protected]
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Old 9th May 2019, 21:00
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Bill Burrup

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I note that Fairflight was hardly even "very new at Biggin" in 1981 as my introduction to (and short lived occupation within) the world of aircraft mechanics was to be employed by them about ten years earlier when, from my perspective, Fred Mulligan ran the practical side of the business in a continuum of harmony and conflict with his son Paul. I worked mostly as an assistant to two other mechanics, one from Africa (Zaki perhaps?) and an Indian whose name escapes me, under a supervisor very possibly named Wally.

These were the days of maintaining Doves and Herons belonging to other outfits as well as those of the company including Oscar India and Fox Zulu, the later which was destroyed by fire on the tarmac outside the hangar whilst undergoing a major maintenance check.

Back then, Biggin was still a small village community starring the likes of Bill Webb and his own red painted Dove, Coby with the majestic moustache living between the wooden control tower and his red Prentice (which for some reason my brain can still remember to have been be registered G-APPL!), Robin the Lord with his Red Roller and his ever present young friends and the diminutive Stan huddled over the single electric heater in the fuel hut in the company of his somewhat larger girlfriend Daisy.

Behind the hangar was a tiny welding and machine workshop, filled with equipment and stuff where Bill - could it have been Burrup? - much to my youthful fascination and amazement, could fabricate various highly complex aircraft components from plain sheets of steel or other metal stock.

Others remembered from that time were David Merritt, who had small office somewhere adjacent to Dillow's cafe and the office of Jock Maitland and I think his then assistant or colleague David Orme. At the other end of the hangar was the cleaning business of Mark Campbell (sadly lost with Ted White in Malta a few years later).

At around that time or maybe a little earlier, another most obvious presence in the vicinity was the slowly disintegrating, white painted Lancaster which thankfully was eventually preserved to become the now better known Just Jane that will - perhaps - one day be able to fly for a return visit.

Warming memories from what now feels to have been a totally different life to this one...
Bill Burrup, my Grandfather had his workshop at Biggin Hill. I know little about what he did and came across your note. Lovely to read what a positive impact he had on your teenage self. I shall be visiting Biggin Hill soon to visit the Heritage Hangar, I would be keen to know where the Fairflight hangar (and Bill's workshop) was in comparison, is anyone able to help?
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Old 12th Aug 2019, 12:56
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Wow, Just found this thread!! Lots of names I know. I was in Ops in Aberdeen for AIr Ecosse. I used to remember all you 'visiting' guys - some more than others!! Dave Stacey arrived at the Ops window about 2 o'clock one morning after being chucked out of the Skean Dhu - as it was pitch dark, I almost crapped myself!!

Good to hear of all these names from times past!!

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Old 13th Aug 2019, 02:40
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What became of Stace the Ace ?
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Old 19th Aug 2019, 12:04
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Alan Moffatt here, I flew for Fairflight in 1975
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Old 25th Aug 2019, 19:56
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Great thread !!
I did some of my time there !!
Didnt see much reference to Express Aviation with Ralph the original West End spiv !! ( and Glynis !!of course)
After Express went to Marni and Peter and S&K !
Happy days!
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Old 3rd Sep 2019, 07:48
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In those days you could just pitch up at Biggin and loiter with intent (observing any rules) No-one seemed to mind. The Fairflight(?) cafe was good also
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