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Old 4th April 2019 | 16:44
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FAA PPL/CPL based on foreign licence

Good evening gentlemen,

I need some info regarding FAA licensing based on a foreign certificate.

Long story short : in 2004 I was issued an FAA PPL based on my Italian CPL.

I went to california for a month after all the TSA screening (visa,fingerprints and so forth),did theory and flying exams and got an FAA CPL.

Now,since those days things in europe have changed,we moved from national licensing to JAR first and then EASA,I still have my FAA PPL based on the old italian licence.

Now,I have a bought a beautiful cessna registered N,and I got my class 3 FAA medical as it makes no sense to do a class 2.

The question,if anyone can help,is: How do I change my FAA PPL from stating that it is no longer based on the old Italian CPL but on the now EASA CPL?

the licence is the same,it's just called a different way.

Many thanks to all those who can help.

A.
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Old 4th April 2019 | 16:48
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Originally Posted by PrivateAviator
Good evening gentlemen,

I need some info regarding FAA licensing based on a foreign certificate.

Long story short : in 2004 I was issued an FAA PPL based on my Italian CPL.

I went to california for a month after all the TSA screening (visa,fingerprints and so forth),did theory and flying exams and got an FAA CPL.

Now,since those days things in europe have changed,we moved from national licensing to JAR first and then EASA,I still have my FAA PPL based on the old italian licence.

Now,I have a bought a beautiful cessna registered N,and I got my class 3 FAA medical as it makes no sense to do a class 2.

The question,if anyone can help,is: How do I change my FAA PPL from stating that it is no longer based on the old Italian CPL but on the now EASA CPL?

the licence is the same,it's just called a different way.

Many thanks to all those who can help.

A.
you have to submit a new application and go through the process again if you want it to change the license it’s based on.
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Old 4th April 2019 | 17:18
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>I went to california for a month after all the TSA screening (visa,fingerprints and so forth),did theory and flying exams and got an FAA CPL.

So you have an FAA licence anyway? why worry about having a 61.75 private?
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Old 4th April 2019 | 17:28
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Originally Posted by custardpsc
>I went to california for a month after all the TSA screening (visa,fingerprints and so forth),did theory and flying exams and got an FAA CPL.

So you have an FAA licence anyway? why worry about having a 61.75 private?
im guessing they don’t want to have to do an FAA Medical again to use the stand alone FAA license
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Old 4th April 2019 | 18:16
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[QUOTE So you have an FAA licence anyway? why worry about having a 61.75 private?[/QUOTE]

The only reason is that class 3 is cheaper,less restrictive (no need to wear lenses) and less often.

for the rest I really don't care,as long as I can fly with my CPL licence in the pocket but hold a classe 3 medical as I'm actually flying privately.

I just dont want to have any trouble flying around

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Old 4th April 2019 | 18:55
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Originally Posted by PrivateAviator
[QUOTE So you have an FAA licence anyway? why worry about having a 61.75 private?
The only reason is that class 3 is cheaper,less restrictive (no need to wear lenses) and less often.

for the rest I really don't care,as long as I can fly with my CPL licence in the pocket but hold a classe 3 medical as I'm actually flying privately.

I just dont want to have any trouble flying around[/QUOTE]

using your 61.75 you need a current medical from THAT country.

your FAA stand alone you need an FAA Medical that’s it.

im not sure why you would bother trying to use your 61.75 license than your stand alone license.
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Old 5th April 2019 | 12:12
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What they said...…..just to clarify, you may legally fly with your FAA CPL and a Class 3 medical, as long as you limit your operations to PPL level privileges, so no flying for hire or compensation, i.e., "private" flying only. Not a big deal, plenty of pilots with advanced FAA licenses (CPL, even ATP), say, a retired airline pilot for example, flying (private privileges only) with a Class 3 medical.

Edit: oops, I just realized, this would hold true for flying in the U.S., but, perhaps the OP means to fly his N-registered plane in Europe? In that case, I don't have any idea how EASA and FAA rules fit together!
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Old 5th April 2019 | 14:09
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In FAA Land every certificate includes the privileges of lower certificates: light sport < private < commercial < ATP. You may only exercise the privileges of any level with the appropriate medical.

One of the requirements to get a commercial certificate is to already have a private certificate. The 61.75 private ticket fulfilled that requirement.

In the OP's case, since the underlying license has changed and is no longer the same number referenced on the 61.75 private certificate, the private is no longer valid. However, since the commercial certificate is completely independent of anything else, it will function just fine indefinitely provided the holder does a current 61.56 flight review and has a valid medical. In FAA Land, EASA Land, or the rest of ICAO Land.

(The above would make him FAA-legal to fly an N-registered airplane. Local rules about keeping, owning, or basing N-reg in EASA Land will also apply.)

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Old 5th April 2019 | 14:23
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Originally Posted by LTCTerry
In FAA Land every certificate includes the privileges of lower certificates: light sport < private < commercial < ATP. You may only exercise the privileges of any level with the appropriate medical.

One of the requirements to get a commercial certificate is to already have a private certificate. The 61.75 private ticket fulfilled that requirement.

In the OP's case, since the underlying license has changed and is no longer the same number referenced on the 61.75 private certificate, the private is no longer valid. However, since the commercial certificate is completely independent of anything else, it will function just fine indefinitely provided the holder does a current 61.56 flight review and has a valid medical. In FAA Land, EASA Land, or the rest of ICAO Land.

(The above would make him FAA-legal to fly an N-registered airplane. Local rules about keeping, owning, or basing N-reg in EASA Land will also apply.)

Enjoy flying!
Beware this is not entirely correct.

OP can only use their EASA medical in the FAA either flying a European registered aircraft or using a 61.75 FAA private based on that foreign license.

if not exercising the 61.75 issues license, which in this case now the numbers don’t match so the license is invalid, then they will need to use their stand alone FAA license. In this case they need an FAA Medical.

you can’t use your foreign medical to fly on an FAA stand alone license.
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Old 10th April 2019 | 22:46
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Originally Posted by PrivateAviator
Good evening gentlemen,

I need some info regarding FAA licensing based on a foreign certificate.

Long story short : in 2004 I was issued an FAA PPL based on my Italian CPL.

I went to california for a month after all the TSA screening (visa,fingerprints and so forth),did theory and flying exams and got an FAA CPL.

Now,since those days things in europe have changed,we moved from national licensing to JAR first and then EASA,I still have my FAA PPL based on the old italian licence.

Now,I have a bought a beautiful cessna registered N,and I got my class 3 FAA medical as it makes no sense to do a class 2.

The question,if anyone can help,is: How do I change my FAA PPL from stating that it is no longer based on the old Italian CPL but on the now EASA CPL?

the licence is the same,it's just called a different way.

Many thanks to all those who can help.

A.
Isn't there a provision in the FAA regs that allows you to fly an N registered aircraft in a foreign country on the foreign license of that country?

I understand that to be the case but cannot find the rule

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Old 11th April 2019 | 02:02
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Isn't there a provision in the FAA regs that allows you to fly an N registered aircraft in a foreign country on the foreign license of that country?

I understand that to be the case but cannot find the rule
yes, as long as you fly in a foreign country and you use a pilot license issued by the same country.

FAR 61.3 (v)
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