Emery Riddle School opinions
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FlightGuy, whoever told you that your country's universities are not very good has taken liberty with the truth, or perhaps failed to graduate. They are excellent. Italian universities are among the world's best and oldest universities. Then again, it all boils down to the quality and capabilities of the student. Even Cambridge and Oxford have had their fair share of dullards like the Swire family members in charge at Cathay Pacific Airways.
FIT and ERAU are more expensive, but that which glitters is not necessarily gold.
They both have a 50%+ drop-out rate. That says something about them.
Caveat Emptor. (Buyer Beware).
Good luck with your decisions.
What about the Italian Air Force as an option?
FIT and ERAU are more expensive, but that which glitters is not necessarily gold.
They both have a 50%+ drop-out rate. That says something about them.
Caveat Emptor. (Buyer Beware).
Good luck with your decisions.
What about the Italian Air Force as an option?
I'm italian, I know what I'm talking about..... Are you Italian?
Yeah some (not all) are old. But that doesn't mean they are good! There are a lot of things to say about Italy but I think is not the place. I only say that we do not have a stable government since 1943, and we have same corruption level of Cuba, Romania, Senegal, look on Google: world perception corruption index.
We have a record public debit of 2,1 trillion, that is more than 130% of our GDP look for it on Google.
Tremendous crisis, there aren't money, and we do not have a government also 15 days after election! All these negative aspects unfortunately influence everything, universities too..... 30-40 years ago we had same troubles but our economy was great that's why was a so nice country for living.... now is a country to escape from!
Italian air-force would be nice, but at 21 years old you are old for them (other strange thing of Italy), they recruit about 50 pilot one time per year, your last chance is when you are 20, you only have 2 or 3 chances, I'm out with age. Age limit in USA for Airforce is 29 years old, in Australia 45....
I have a friend who was a military pilot here, we have planes but we do not have fuel for them, can happen that some military pilots flight only minimum hours per year (like 50-80 hours, he told something like that) to not loose license..... that's Italy!
And I didn't talk about our national airline Alitalia................
I would be happy to pay my education in a good country! Indeed if it worths.
Last edited by Flightguy01; 19th March 2018 at 23:04.
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in meanwhile Embry Riddle career office answered me back. Career office in italian universities doesn't exist, for example...
"Currently, only one airline will hire international pilots with an H1B to work in the U.S; however, a good number of our international students will flight instruct at the school for several years while going through the process to get Permeant Residency in the U.S. ERAU will sponsor international students with their H1B to flight instruct once they have graduated for up to 5 years. This allows you to accumulate the required hours to go to the airlines and work on getting your residency in the U.S. We do not have any legal partnerships with international carriers, but they do hire our international students. We have had students go to Korean Air, Saudia Airlines, Qatar Airways, Ryan Air, Lufthansa, just to name a few. "
They also told me that the only airline that currently hires pilots with student visa is Wisconsin airline, and they also said they always need flight instructors so is not a problem (if I take the instructor license) to hire and sponsor me until I get the green card.... I don't know if what they said is 100% true, if it is real, there aren't any problems for me. What do you think? I hope is not marketing in order to steal my money....
The drop out rate in both schools is very high, what does it mean for you? A friend of mine who lives in USA (he is not pilot but he is from lawyer school) told me that is wired.... I'm not expert on US schools, can I ask directly to them about that?
"Currently, only one airline will hire international pilots with an H1B to work in the U.S; however, a good number of our international students will flight instruct at the school for several years while going through the process to get Permeant Residency in the U.S. ERAU will sponsor international students with their H1B to flight instruct once they have graduated for up to 5 years. This allows you to accumulate the required hours to go to the airlines and work on getting your residency in the U.S. We do not have any legal partnerships with international carriers, but they do hire our international students. We have had students go to Korean Air, Saudia Airlines, Qatar Airways, Ryan Air, Lufthansa, just to name a few. "
They also told me that the only airline that currently hires pilots with student visa is Wisconsin airline, and they also said they always need flight instructors so is not a problem (if I take the instructor license) to hire and sponsor me until I get the green card.... I don't know if what they said is 100% true, if it is real, there aren't any problems for me. What do you think? I hope is not marketing in order to steal my money....
The drop out rate in both schools is very high, what does it mean for you? A friend of mine who lives in USA (he is not pilot but he is from lawyer school) told me that is wired.... I'm not expert on US schools, can I ask directly to them about that?
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in meanwhile Embry Riddle career office answered me back. Career office in italian universities doesn't exist, for example...
"Currently, only one airline will hire international pilots with an H1B to work in the U.S; however, a good number of our international students will flight instruct at the school for several years while going through the process to get Permeant Residency in the U.S. ERAU will sponsor international students with their H1B to flight instruct once they have graduated for up to 5 years. This allows you to accumulate the required hours to go to the airlines and work on getting your residency in the U.S. We do not have any legal partnerships with international carriers, but they do hire our international students. We have had students go to Korean Air, Saudia Airlines, Qatar Airways, Ryan Air, Lufthansa, just to name a few. "
They also told me that the only airline that currently hires pilots with student visa is Wisconsin airline, and they also said they always need flight instructors so is not a problem (if I take the instructor license) to hire and sponsor me until I get the green card.... I don't know if what they said is 100% true, if it is real, there aren't any problems for me. What do you think? I hope is not marketing in order to steal my money....
The drop out rate in both schools is very high, what does it mean for you? A friend of mine who lives in USA (he is not pilot but he is from lawyer school) told me that is wired.... I'm not expert on US schools, can I ask directly to them about that?
"Currently, only one airline will hire international pilots with an H1B to work in the U.S; however, a good number of our international students will flight instruct at the school for several years while going through the process to get Permeant Residency in the U.S. ERAU will sponsor international students with their H1B to flight instruct once they have graduated for up to 5 years. This allows you to accumulate the required hours to go to the airlines and work on getting your residency in the U.S. We do not have any legal partnerships with international carriers, but they do hire our international students. We have had students go to Korean Air, Saudia Airlines, Qatar Airways, Ryan Air, Lufthansa, just to name a few. "
They also told me that the only airline that currently hires pilots with student visa is Wisconsin airline, and they also said they always need flight instructors so is not a problem (if I take the instructor license) to hire and sponsor me until I get the green card.... I don't know if what they said is 100% true, if it is real, there aren't any problems for me. What do you think? I hope is not marketing in order to steal my money....
The drop out rate in both schools is very high, what does it mean for you? A friend of mine who lives in USA (he is not pilot but he is from lawyer school) told me that is wired.... I'm not expert on US schools, can I ask directly to them about that?
Remember, any college will tell you what you want to hear to get your money.
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Can you please stop to write in my threads? Your messages are useless
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Just some parting advice, when you look at the USCIS.gov website and see how many H1B’s for pilot have been issued, you will be surprised to see that most of them that are in fact E3 visas’s coded as H1B’s.
I’m simply trying to impart that it’s not all rainbows and unicorns that the college is purporting once you finishe your training as far as the work visa/ green card immigration side of things goes having been in aviation professionally since 2002 and an immigrant to the US from Australia.
Also don’t bank on the immigration/work visa rules staying the same in your favor. They can change on a dime, especially with the current presidents agenda.
Good luck.
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It’s kind of a known fact in the States that Riddle is pretty over priced. Lots of shiny cool toys to lure you in, I believe some of their professors are Top Gun winners, etc. Very enticing to a young would be aviator. It is a good school I’m sure, but there are many, more affordable, equally good schools like FIT, Perdue, Kent State, just to name a few. Besides, do you really want to go to College at a school that specializes in Male dominated professions, like aviation and engineering? Sounds like a certain kind of fest, and I don’t mean beer fest.
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Ok, risking creating a zombie thread, I'll chime in. Riddle is a good school in the sense that you can get a job in the aviation industry, even a non-flying one. I'm in the aviation insurance industry and about half of my company is from a Riddle campus, all pilots. At least in America, the name does open doors.
The main issue will be debt. If you can afford it, then go for it. If you do not want to pay off your student loan for the next 15 + years, do not go there. Everyone I know from Riddle has a career in aviation, flying or otherwise, but they all graduated with 100k plus debt. The ones that had rich parents who paid it off for them are doing well, since they have good careers in aviation and no debt. The ones that do not have rich parents are seeing a big chunk of their salaries go to loan payments and complain about it EVERY DAY. So, choose wisely.
The main issue will be debt. If you can afford it, then go for it. If you do not want to pay off your student loan for the next 15 + years, do not go there. Everyone I know from Riddle has a career in aviation, flying or otherwise, but they all graduated with 100k plus debt. The ones that had rich parents who paid it off for them are doing well, since they have good careers in aviation and no debt. The ones that do not have rich parents are seeing a big chunk of their salaries go to loan payments and complain about it EVERY DAY. So, choose wisely.
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Something (even though I doubt that the OP really cares) of a general point nobody has made yet:
First off:
Most european airlines, whether low-cost, regional, charter or major - give a s+*t about whether you have a college degree. So if you want to ONLY FLY, do your training in Europe and become a pilot. Easy as that. No need for 150k plus in student debt. Really. Get your frozen ATPL in Europe, get a job at an airline in Europe, do a degree at a non-italian uni on the side if you desire.
Secondly:
If you want to become a pilot, do so in Europe. You seem to ignore what everyone has told you already. THE US DO NOT NEED FOREIGNERS TO FILL PILOT JOBS!
Seriously. You think you're probably gonna excel at training and impress everyone. The government doesn't care. Same the other way around. European countries don't just issue work visas for American pilots over here.
If you want to work in the US, play the green card lottery, marry a girl from the States or become a professional in another field which will allow you to emigrate to the US.
It's not gonna happen, trust me!
And on a final note:
I have done both training under FAA and JAR/EASA. I hold FAA licenses and an EASA license. Regulations are different first of all, and knowledge of FARs will help you nothing in Europe and vice versa. Converting one license to the other is a royal pain in the a** and costs a lot as well.
Do you training where you want to be a pilot. If you don't want to stay in Italy, go someplace else in Europe. Do your training where you are eligible to work and live.
If you want the american college experience then go to a uni on a student visa, get a degree (way overpriced compared to Europe) and then become a pilot in Europe.
Or don't. After all. What do I care.
First off:
Most european airlines, whether low-cost, regional, charter or major - give a s+*t about whether you have a college degree. So if you want to ONLY FLY, do your training in Europe and become a pilot. Easy as that. No need for 150k plus in student debt. Really. Get your frozen ATPL in Europe, get a job at an airline in Europe, do a degree at a non-italian uni on the side if you desire.
Secondly:
If you want to become a pilot, do so in Europe. You seem to ignore what everyone has told you already. THE US DO NOT NEED FOREIGNERS TO FILL PILOT JOBS!
Seriously. You think you're probably gonna excel at training and impress everyone. The government doesn't care. Same the other way around. European countries don't just issue work visas for American pilots over here.
If you want to work in the US, play the green card lottery, marry a girl from the States or become a professional in another field which will allow you to emigrate to the US.
It's not gonna happen, trust me!
And on a final note:
I have done both training under FAA and JAR/EASA. I hold FAA licenses and an EASA license. Regulations are different first of all, and knowledge of FARs will help you nothing in Europe and vice versa. Converting one license to the other is a royal pain in the a** and costs a lot as well.
Do you training where you want to be a pilot. If you don't want to stay in Italy, go someplace else in Europe. Do your training where you are eligible to work and live.
If you want the american college experience then go to a uni on a student visa, get a degree (way overpriced compared to Europe) and then become a pilot in Europe.
Or don't. After all. What do I care.
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Something (even though I doubt that the OP really cares) of a general point nobody has made yet:
First off:
Most european airlines, whether low-cost, regional, charter or major - give a s+*t about whether you have a college degree. So if you want to ONLY FLY, do your training in Europe and become a pilot. Easy as that. No need for 150k plus in student debt. Really. Get your frozen ATPL in Europe, get a job at an airline in Europe, do a degree at a non-italian uni on the side if you desire.
Secondly:
If you want to become a pilot, do so in Europe. You seem to ignore what everyone has told you already. THE US DO NOT NEED FOREIGNERS TO FILL PILOT JOBS!
Seriously. You think you're probably gonna excel at training and impress everyone. The government doesn't care. Same the other way around. European countries don't just issue work visas for American pilots over here.
If you want to work in the US, play the green card lottery, marry a girl from the States or become a professional in another field which will allow you to emigrate to the US.
It's not gonna happen, trust me!
And on a final note:
I have done both training under FAA and JAR/EASA. I hold FAA licenses and an EASA license. Regulations are different first of all, and knowledge of FARs will help you nothing in Europe and vice versa. Converting one license to the other is a royal pain in the a** and costs a lot as well.
Do you training where you want to be a pilot. If you don't want to stay in Italy, go someplace else in Europe. Do your training where you are eligible to work and live.
If you want the american college experience then go to a uni on a student visa, get a degree (way overpriced compared to Europe) and then become a pilot in Europe.
Or don't. After all. What do I care.
First off:
Most european airlines, whether low-cost, regional, charter or major - give a s+*t about whether you have a college degree. So if you want to ONLY FLY, do your training in Europe and become a pilot. Easy as that. No need for 150k plus in student debt. Really. Get your frozen ATPL in Europe, get a job at an airline in Europe, do a degree at a non-italian uni on the side if you desire.
Secondly:
If you want to become a pilot, do so in Europe. You seem to ignore what everyone has told you already. THE US DO NOT NEED FOREIGNERS TO FILL PILOT JOBS!
Seriously. You think you're probably gonna excel at training and impress everyone. The government doesn't care. Same the other way around. European countries don't just issue work visas for American pilots over here.
If you want to work in the US, play the green card lottery, marry a girl from the States or become a professional in another field which will allow you to emigrate to the US.
It's not gonna happen, trust me!
And on a final note:
I have done both training under FAA and JAR/EASA. I hold FAA licenses and an EASA license. Regulations are different first of all, and knowledge of FARs will help you nothing in Europe and vice versa. Converting one license to the other is a royal pain in the a** and costs a lot as well.
Do you training where you want to be a pilot. If you don't want to stay in Italy, go someplace else in Europe. Do your training where you are eligible to work and live.
If you want the american college experience then go to a uni on a student visa, get a degree (way overpriced compared to Europe) and then become a pilot in Europe.
Or don't. After all. What do I care.
You’re wasting your breath. You can lead a horse to water...........
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I haven't read every reply (or the OP responses) but I get the sense the OP wants more than just flying. Florida is a good place for a young guy on several levels, not just a sunny place to get your tickets punched.
To the OP, don't be dismissive of the comments regarding legal status of working in the USA. This is not an insurmountable problem, but it transcend advise here on an aviation forum. If your young, have the money and want to get an education in the USA in a warm, friendly environment, do it. Life is more than just flying and your education is more than aviation. Go have fun, get a good education and work on either becoming legal in the USA or deciding to go else where after.
To the OP, don't be dismissive of the comments regarding legal status of working in the USA. This is not an insurmountable problem, but it transcend advise here on an aviation forum. If your young, have the money and want to get an education in the USA in a warm, friendly environment, do it. Life is more than just flying and your education is more than aviation. Go have fun, get a good education and work on either becoming legal in the USA or deciding to go else where after.
