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Old 18th May 2017 | 23:44
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This is a complete stab in the dark here, but can anyone provide any info on employment with Hawaiian (shorthaul)? Particularly for aussies.

Thanks in advance 👍
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Old 18th May 2017 | 23:51
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Why would it be anything special for Aussies?
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Old 19th May 2017 | 00:32
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Why would it be anything special for Aussies?
Well, overseas pilots I should say.
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Old 19th May 2017 | 01:30
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Well, overseas I should say.
Same question applies. Why would Hawaiian be any different than any other US carrier?
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Old 19th May 2017 | 18:52
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Ok, I'll rephrase the question perhaps.....

Can anyone tell me what Hawaiian are like to work for and have/are they hiring overseas pilots?

Cheers!
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Old 19th May 2017 | 22:54
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Originally Posted by bazza stub
Ok, I'll rephrase the question perhaps.....

Can anyone tell me what Hawaiian are like to work for and have/are they hiring overseas pilots?

Cheers!

hahaha they make you hard on this one

as far as I know, zero overseas recruitment for majors/legacies. regionals though....do some research and even contact them right away, being australian I think it's doable with an E3 maybe?
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Old 19th May 2017 | 23:10
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hahaha they make you hard on this one

as far as I know, zero overseas recruitment for majors/legacies. regionals though....do some research and even contact them right away, being australian I think it's doable with an E3 maybe?
Yeah, was a little like a trip to the dentist!

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Old 20th May 2017 | 13:45
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Ok, I'll rephrase the question perhaps.....

Can anyone tell me what Hawaiian are like to work for and have/are they hiring overseas pilots?

Cheers!
They hire very few pilots period. It's a small carrier with only 53 airplanes and a little over 600 pilots. Their hiring has historically been to the tune of 40 or so pilots per year, and they've never had a shortage of apps, so the idea that they would go after an Aussie over all those others seems far-fetched. As an aside, a former colleague of mine was unsuccessful at getting in there despite being ethnically Hawaiian, being from Hawai'i, with an O'ahu address, Hawai'i phone number, with excellent flight times and just being a great guy. They never even looked at him.
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53 aircraft is a small carrier?.. I certainly don't think so. Having 3 aircraft would qualify as a small carrier.
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It's all relative. AA has almost 950, Southwest has over 700 as does United. Even Alaska has about 150 737s. So for a US 121 air carrier, yes, 53 aircraft is a small fleet.

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Delta has 850+.

Many regional airlines in the US have 50+ aircraft with SkyWest being the biggest at 380+ airframes.
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53 aircraft is a small carrier?.. I certainly don't think so.
Your opinion is hereby noted and added to the record.
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Old 21st May 2017 | 13:57
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Originally Posted by bazza stub
Hi all,

This is a complete stab in the dark here, but can anyone provide any info on employment with Hawaiian (shorthaul)? Particularly for aussies.

Thanks in advance 👍
You'll have about the same chance as a US citizen applying for an Australian airline (or any flying job in Australia)
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Old 21st May 2017 | 21:12
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You'll have about the same chance as a US citizen applying for an Australian airline (or any flying job in Australia)
What now? Or back in 1989!
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Old 22nd May 2017 | 00:39
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e3 Work Visa - For Australians Wanting to Work In the USA
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Old 22nd May 2017 | 03:03
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Originally Posted by bazza stub
Hi all,

This is a complete stab in the dark here, but can anyone provide any info on employment with Hawaiian (shorthaul)? Particularly for aussies.

Thanks in advance 👍
What's your background, types flown and hours? Might help
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Old 23rd May 2017 | 21:52
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What's your background, types flown and hours? Might help
I doubt it. Unless he has a green card, his chances are likely zero.
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I considered them back in the 90s. They didn't consider me however.

Not sure if it's still accurate, but they used to show preference to pilots who had ties to the islands. Presumably this to aid in retention.

Now short haul (like 53 aircraft being small) is subjective. To a 777LR guy, what they fly may be short haul, but they do fly some relatively long legs, China, Oz, NZ, mainland US from HNL. The inter island stuff way back when used to be somewhat senior, no clue these days.

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Old 1st June 2017 | 05:20
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Originally Posted by Amadis of Gaul
They hire very few pilots period. It's a small carrier with only 53 airplanes and a little over 600 pilots. Their hiring has historically been to the tune of 40 or so pilots per year, and they've never had a shortage of apps, so the idea that they would go after an Aussie over all those others seems far-fetched. As an aside, a former colleague of mine was unsuccessful at getting in there despite being ethnically Hawaiian, being from Hawai'i, with an O'ahu address, Hawai'i phone number, with excellent flight times and just being a great guy. They never even looked at him.
Maybe that it is a small industry, and a smaller island. One "downer" from inside the HA 'ohana and no chance. Hawaiian has taken on some people I have heard from with no Island connections but sounds rare.

US Airlines won't lift a finger to assist with visa issues but they will not discriminate against foreign pilot in any way either, in fact diversity is looked on favorably. OP if wanting to work in the US needs to get on a path to a Green Card/work authorization, and also 4 year degree or equivalent.
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Old 2nd June 2017 | 03:12
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Maybe that it is a small industry, and a smaller island. One "downer" from inside the HA 'ohana and no chance. Hawaiian has taken on some people I have heard from with no Island connections but sounds rare.

US Airlines won't lift a finger to assist with visa issues but they will not discriminate against foreign pilot in any way either, in fact diversity is looked on favorably. OP if wanting to work in the US needs to get on a path to a Green Card/work authorization, and also 4 year degree or equivalent.
Not entirely accurate, Australians are currently flying in the USA on E3 visas. That being said I can't see a legacy/major supporting an E3 Visa on Regionals like Piedmont and Skywest etc
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