Amazon is building $1.5B sort and hub facility in CVG

[bafanguy]

Appears Florida West is removed from the Amazon puzzle...if it was ever in there:

Florida West Int'l Airways formally shut down - ch-aviation.com

[tdracer]

Originally Posted by bafanguy

Rumor surfaces in another outlet:

"... the second involves talks with unspecified Wall Street investors for the financing of 400 aircraft."

There was an article in a Puget Sound business journal recently speculating that Amazon was in talks with Boeing to place a massive order for new 767 Freighters (behind a pay wall unfortunately).
Before I retired late last year, there was a lot of scuttlebutt that some big 767F orders were in the works...

[bafanguy]

Originally Posted by tdracer

...there was a lot of scuttlebutt that some big 767F orders were in the works...

tdracer,

Certainly plausible. My source tells me the 767 line is still up and running...willing and able to add new 767F orders. Converting existing pax 763 air frames to freighters is pretty expensive and time consuming ? Stay tuned ?

[peekay4]

As a point of comparison, the total number of 767s ever delivered (all models) is 1,097 -- including 1 delivery to FedEx earlier this year.

And the largest ever 767 order was placed by FedEx two years ago, for 50 aircraft.

Not counting conversions, there are only 123 767-300Fs deliveries in total.

An Amazon order for 100 (or 400!) would be monumental for the 767 program.

[tdracer]

My source tells me the 767 line is still up and running...willing and able to add new 767F orders.

IIRC, current 767 production is about 2/month - one each for FedEx and USAF KC-46, baring new orders that's expected to hold for several years. At least in theory, they have the capability to build 767s at 7/month so there is unused capability (although that may have been reduced somewhat when they transitioned the 767 line to ITAR about 5 years ago to support the KC-46 production).


A big problem with converting passenger 767s to freighters is that the passenger airframes are getting well and truly used up before being retired - many 767s being retired have over 100k hours.