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Time Traveller 20th February 2024 08:02


Originally Posted by Googlebug (Post 11600488)
Why. Just about every airline is recruiting and every airline is desperate. Why feed the bottom dwellers?

Idiot

Prob30Tempo TSRA 20th February 2024 14:00


Originally Posted by Googlebug (Post 11600488)
Why. Just about every airline is recruiting and every airline is desperate. Why feed the bottom dwellers?

because having spent £100k, to pay for a TR and not get any free coffee is the next price you pay .

And it’s poor , but if you don’t do it , there’s still a queue behind of people that’ll do anything to get their base training photo with 737 on Instagram

And it’s not a modern phenomenon - a mate paid for a 737 TR with BM in 1995 .. no guarantee of a job .. another did likewuse and got sent to the F100… I brought into the pay for tech training and do the tech exam scam .. to put on a CV

ZuluZuluAlpha 20th February 2024 17:26


Originally Posted by Googlebug (Post 11600488)
Why. Just about every airline is recruiting and every airline is desperate. Why feed the bottom dwellers?

No they’re not. The ‘bottom feeders’ exist because there’s a market for them, there’s a reason why, there are so many qualified pilots out there

Prob30Tempo TSRA 20th February 2024 18:07


Originally Posted by ZuluZuluAlpha (Post 11600856)
No they’re not. The ‘bottom feeders’ exist because there’s a market for them, there’s a reason why, there are so many qualified pilots out there

So many licence holders with zero experience . The locos have the pick of the 250 hr new and desperate pilots .

Theres not many highly qualified - hence the quantity of DEC jobs worldwide

ShamrockF 22nd February 2024 18:57


Originally Posted by Richard_ (Post 11599485)
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ef615dc1c.jpeg

Hi guys, sorry if its in the wrong thread, but anyone have a friend or know of somebody who received a message similar to this, just upset and thinking what are my next steps and is ryan air out the window from future employment...

Richard,

Don't let this stop you from applying again. Keep at it with the aptitude tests, and get someone to look over your CV and cover letter to make sure they're top notch. There are plenty of people who have applied to Ryanair more than once and have gotten in eventually.

Richard_ 25th February 2024 22:11

Thanks for the reply and the advice, it seems i cant apply again until i have hours-or they reach out to me ( fingers crossed ), I have had a friend look over my CV and cover letter and they said its suitable, I am now considering alternatives like Avion express/ Eagle jet even though alot of users have concerned their frustration- but it seems the market is tough to crack into with experienced and fresh young cadets as well as being in my late 30's time is ticking..

Prob30Tempo TSRA 25th February 2024 22:41


Originally Posted by Richard_ (Post 11603952)
Thanks for the reply and the advice, it seems i cant apply again until i have hours-or they reach out to me ( fingers crossed ), I have had a friend look over my CV and cover letter and they said its suitable, I am now considering alternatives like Avion express/ Eagle jet even though alot of users have concerned their frustration- but it seems the market is tough to crack into with experienced and fresh young cadets as well as being in my late 30's time is ticking..

no need pay to fly with bottom feeders like them … check out all the ATR operators looking for people . Companies are desperate right now so keep your cards tight and maintain your self respect

Garcia37 26th February 2024 12:58


Originally Posted by Prob30Tempo TSRA (Post 11603972)
check out all the ATR operators looking for people . Companies are desperate right now so keep your cards tight and maintain your self respect

Could you please elaborate on that? What companies and what conditions do they offer?


Prob30Tempo TSRA 26th February 2024 14:06


Originally Posted by Garcia37 (Post 11604271)
Could you please elaborate on that? What companies and what conditions do they offer?

Look at - latestpilotjobs.com , every day .

Garcia37 26th February 2024 14:26


Originally Posted by Prob30Tempo TSRA (Post 11604305)
Look at - latestpilotjobs.com , every day .

Not sure. Just 5 job offers, 2 of them for captains/TR and the others are for FO but you require 1000h. I might be searching wrong tho

Richard_ 28th February 2024 19:42

cant see anything for low hour cadets on the website you mentioned

pilot2021 28th February 2024 21:36


Originally Posted by Richard_ (Post 11605829)
cant see anything for low hour cadets on the website you mentioned

Anyway you won’t have time to take day off during the AFA contract so I prefer to have paying leave d
if I am at home and get fully annual leave on the new contract. Stopped look at the negative all the time

A320LGW 28th February 2024 22:19


Originally Posted by nenovah (Post 11605818)
Right now, RYR is putting cadets who are waiting for their line training, on annual leaves without asking. I feel this is quite unreasonable, people cannot use the days as they want.

I think if you're low hours and have a job, annual leave allocation is the bottom of your list of priorities for quite some time

Chesty Morgan 28th February 2024 22:35


Originally Posted by nenovah (Post 11605818)
Right now, RYR is putting cadets who are waiting for their line training, on annual leaves without asking. I feel this is quite unreasonable, people cannot use the days as they want.

That's the price you pay.

pilot2021 29th February 2024 06:14


Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan (Post 11605920)
That's the price you pay.

Okay so tell me why I will want to have “annual leave” for a 6 months contract that’s is not even an “annual” while I’m getting pay and stay home waiting for my base? The moment I will start fly that last thing I will want is annual leave + this annual leave give gets extra money for the paycheck. So stay home and gets more money no problem.

I have been looking at your comments around and you always so negative about Ryanair, I suggest you to change your attitude. You don’t like Ryanair? Fine keep your attitude off the forum or go to flight simulator forum or something

Chesty Morgan 29th February 2024 07:04


Originally Posted by pilot2021 (Post 11606070)
Okay so tell me why I will want to have “annual leave” for a 6 months contract that’s is not even an “annual” while I’m getting pay and stay home waiting for my base? The moment I will start fly that last thing I will want is annual leave + this annual leave give gets extra money for the paycheck. So stay home and gets more money no problem.

I have been looking at your comments around and you always so negative about Ryanair, I suggest you to change your attitude. You don’t like Ryanair? Fine keep your attitude off the forum or go to flight simulator forum or something

No, I won't change my attitude or opinion about Ryanair just because you don't like hearing it.

The fact is Ryanair are not known for treating their pilots particularly well. That is a well known fact yet you lemmings continue to join in droves for a quick jet job.

Don't like it, don't join and then come here whining about it.

pilot2021 29th February 2024 07:06


Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan (Post 11606084)
No, I won't change my attitude or opinion about Ryanair just because you don't like hearing it.

The fact is Ryanair are not known for treating their pilots particularly well. That is a well known fact yet you lemmings continue to join in droves for a quick jet job.

Don't like it, don't join and then come here whining about it.

You probably one of those who laid hundreds of thousands of dollars on pilot licenses and still jobless because of attitude.

Chesty Morgan 29th February 2024 07:15

If you feel better about your life choices by believing that then crack on mate.

Vokes55 29th February 2024 11:49


Originally Posted by pilot2021 (Post 11606085)
You probably one of those who laid hundreds of thousands of dollars on pilot licenses and still jobless because of attitude.

Worse, he’s one of the grossly insecure Jet2 pilots who thinks criticising every other airline will make himself feel better about getting up at 3am for the sixth day in a row to ship more chavs to Benidorm.

Ignore him. Or bait him. He bites, regularly.

AIMINGHIGH123 29th February 2024 13:35


Originally Posted by pilot2021 (Post 11606085)
You probably one of those who laid hundreds of thousands of dollars on pilot licenses and still jobless because of attitude.


Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan (Post 11606084)
No, I won't change my attitude or opinion about Ryanair just because you don't like hearing it.

The fact is Ryanair are not known for treating their pilots particularly well. That is a well known fact yet you lemmings continue to join in droves for a quick jet job.

Don't like it, don't join and then come here whining about it.

Sorry Chesty is only stating facts.

When I was at RYR half my group did base training and got given leave due to insufficient LTC. Is what it is. Welcome to RYR. Sat at home earning a pittance on leave I didn’t want.

Those that only stay at RYR will always praise it. Once you go elsewhere you realise how poorly paid and how poorly treated you were at RYR.

rudestuff 29th February 2024 13:42

It's a starter job isn't it? Anyone can expect to be messed around during line training. It is what it is - industry recognised training and a lot if hours. Great as a career or as a stepping stone. Once you have 2000 hours you can come to the ME and take home £10k a month, or stay in RYR and get a command.

Chesty Morgan 29th February 2024 14:17


Originally Posted by Vokes55 (Post 11606230)
Worse, he’s one of the grossly insecure Jet2 pilots who thinks criticising every other airline will make himself feel better about getting up at 3am for the sixth day in a row to ship more chavs to Benidorm.

Ignore him. Or bait him. He bites, regularly.

You fancy me don't you?
Still, you're quite funny. Not really funny, but funny enough for a chuckle.

I could count, for an accurate figure, but having done less than 6 days flying in the last 2 months I dont think I need to. On full salary. I'm not insecure about a thing chap


Garcia37 29th February 2024 21:59


Originally Posted by pilot2021 (Post 11605898)
Anyway you won’t have time to take day off during the AFA contract so I prefer to have paying leave d
if I am at home and get fully annual leave on the new contract. Stopped look at the negative all the time

I think he was answering to Prob30Tempo TSRA . He said that a lot of airlines are desperate for low experience ATR pilots and sent a website. I've been looking and I haven't seen those offers as well.

Vokes55 1st March 2024 13:52


Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan (Post 11606314)
I could count, for an accurate figure, but having done less than 6 days flying in the last 2 months I dont think I need to. On full salary. I'm not insecure about a thing chap

The fact that you need to come onto an anonymous internet forum and keep justifying that proves that you are, indeed, highly insecure.

Keep nibbling, “chap”.

Bradley Hardacre 1st March 2024 14:49


Originally Posted by Vokes55 (Post 11606230)
getting up at 3am for the sixth day in a row to ship more chavs to Benidorm.

This is where aviation has arrived in 2024, a far cry from the halcyon days (Court Line) of the 60s and 70s

Chesty Morgan 1st March 2024 14:59


Originally Posted by Vokes55 (Post 11606954)
The fact that you need to come onto an anonymous internet forum and keep justifying that proves that you are, indeed, highly insecure.

Keep nibbling, “chap”.

Thanks for another chuckle. Your rejection has really hurt you hasn't it?

My statement was purely topical and only serves to highlight how bad Ryanair can be.

dick byrne 3rd March 2024 23:03

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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan (Post 11606995)
Thanks for another chuckle. Your rejection has really hurt you hasn't it?

My statement was purely topical and only serves to highlight how bad Ryanair can be.

We all love Jet2 Chesty. It even says as much in the attached document. It sounds like a lovely company.
If I am not mistaken isn’t the poster that you keep sniping at in the most pathetic way working for a company that is widely accepted to be the number 1 holiday airline to be at?
Come on Chesty, we need another nibble.

For the love of all things good, would the Chief Chanex Jobsworth mind running along please?

Chesty Morgan 4th March 2024 06:45

Here I am thinking that this is a Ryanair thread:rolleyes:

A320LGW 4th March 2024 10:52

The philosophy from Ryanair themselves is that we train in a relaxed, non punitive environment. The vast majority of trainers oblige, there are however definitely a few rogues who seem to have egos to massage rather than teach anything useful. The good thing though is there are feedback forms, which do get read.

midnight cruiser 4th March 2024 12:34


Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan (Post 11608550)
Here I am thinking that this is a Ryanair thread:rolleyes:

And as I'd wager you've never worked there, and clearly don't have any insight, I and no doubt several others would respectfully wish that you poke off, and leave it to people who do work there (and have had other employers to compare it by) and actually quite like it.

Chesty Morgan 4th March 2024 14:10


Originally Posted by midnight cruiser (Post 11608780)
And as I'd wager you've never worked there, and clearly don't have any insight, I and no doubt several others would respectfully wish that you poke off, and leave it to people who do work there (and have had other employers to compare it by) and actually quite like it.

What? So you can have a Ryanair love in?

I'm as entitled to an opinion as you are. Feel free to discuss or refute my opinion about Ryanair as much as you like* for I have no intention of "poking off".

*Thats kinda how these forums work.

Vokes55 4th March 2024 16:16


Originally Posted by midnight cruiser (Post 11608780)
And as I'd wager you've never worked there, and clearly don't have any insight, I and no doubt several others would respectfully wish that you poke off, and leave it to people who do work there (and have had other employers to compare it by) and actually quite like it.

As before, ignore him. Slating other airlines is what gets him through the day, it says more about him and his insecurities than anything else and he’s embarrassing himself further with every bite.

Once the perpetual unpaid SBYs of Winter turns into the 6/2 pattern of 4am reports for the Lonsdale Express, he will be too busy (and tired) to come up with anything that even he believes is humorous.

midnight cruiser 4th March 2024 16:18


Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan (Post 11608837)
What? So you can have a Ryanair love in?

I'm as entitled to an opinion as you are. Feel free to discuss or refute my opinion about Ryanair as much as you like* for I have no intention of "poking off"..

Endless trolling without insight isn't an opinion, it's just rather pathetic.


Chesty Morgan 4th March 2024 16:58


Originally Posted by midnight cruiser (Post 11608898)
Endless trolling without insight isn't an opinion, it's just rather pathetic.

Who hasn't got insight? I've been involved in aviation since before Ryanair existed. There's a LOT of information about Ryanair freely available to the public and even more so to those in the industry. Just because you don't like what I say doesn't mean I am wrong or making unfounded guesses. Don't like it? Not my problem.

Chesty Morgan 4th March 2024 17:01


Originally Posted by Vokes55 (Post 11608896)
As before, ignore him. Slating other airlines is what gets him through the day, it says more about him and his insecurities than anything else and he’s embarrassing himself further with every bite.

Once the perpetual unpaid SBYs of Winter turns into the 6/2 pattern of 4am reports for the Lonsdale Express, he will be too busy (and tired) to come up with anything that even he believes is humorous.

Speaking of trolls...I know you'd love it to be true because it would make your rejection more palatable but I have never flown 6 days in a row, ever.

Sorry old boy, time to change the record, yours is broken.

Your first paragraph is deliciously ironic. Strike up another laugh.

Vokes55 4th March 2024 18:51

Chomp chomp. The gift that keeps on giving.

Chesty Morgan 4th March 2024 18:56

Lo! With predictable tedium yet another non-contributory post devoid of intelligence. Bye bye you sad man.

Lazyturtle 5th March 2024 06:25


Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan (Post 11608966)
Lo! With predictable tedium yet another non-contributory post devoid of intelligence. Bye bye you sad man.


You sound like an egomaniac. Always need to belittle others and get the last word.

Chesty Morgan 5th March 2024 07:12

No not at all, just those who propagate splenetic, ill informed, bilge that bubbles around them like a burst sewer with their 'here hold my brain while I type' performances.

Still...Ryanair...?

HandsomeHarry 5th March 2024 13:35

Vokes55

May I politely remind you that these “chavs” you speak about on the “Lonsdale Express” help pay all our wages.

Matters not if you work for Ryanair, TUI, Jet2 or EasyJet.

It would be wise and also morally correct to show some respect to our paying customers.

I find your comments very disrespectful and downright arrogant.


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