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Originally Posted by A320LGW
(Post 11530708)
I think I heard colleagues saying STN was actually free parking, but don't quote me on that, it's normal to pay at most bases
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Originally Posted by MegaFlyCraft
(Post 11534455)
STN is free parking, you just need an airport ID to access it, which is also free
Do the G reg aircraft always fly the same routes it does it alter day in day out ? |
Can anyone provide a rough estimate on the take-home money for an STN-based F/O? Something between 3.5K to 4K quid?
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Originally Posted by Prob30Tempo TSRA
(Post 11534954)
That's good to know , thanks
Do the G reg aircraft always fly the same routes it does it alter day in day out ? |
Originally Posted by Broomstick Flier
(Post 11534962)
Can anyone provide a rough estimate on the take-home money for an STN-based F/O? Something between 3.5K to 4K quid?
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56500 annual basic, 5000 pilot allowance, 5500 dual license allowance (if you've got a uk caa license too), around £10/sbh, there's also a London allowance but I can't remember what it is, about £100 extra a month net I think it was
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Originally Posted by Broomstick Flier
(Post 11534962)
Can anyone provide a rough estimate on the take-home money for an STN-based F/O? Something between 3.5K to 4K quid?
Allowance: £5500 Annual leave: £2897 (28 days x £103.45) Sector: £8662 (850 hrs x £10.19) Pension: £3000 STN/LTN: £3000 allowance Dual licence add £5000 if you have both EASA and UK licences Basic increases £1500 every April. Stick all that in a UK tax Calc (minus pension) you’ll get your answer. |
Thanks for the contributions, appreciated :ok:
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Hi all, does anyone know if I do not have a EU/U.K. passport (I have a visa that allows me to work in the U.K. only), would I be able to apply for the AFA cadet? I have only EASA license too. Thank you!
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Hey guys, if anyone here is based in Italy and is willing to have a chat about terms and conditions, would appreciate if you could dm me
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Is the UK sector pay tax free? If not, what tax free allowances are available for pilots joining an UK base who are not British and not resident in the UK?
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That is not really a Ryanair specific question and is probably better asked in a financial forum, however you could start here:
https://www.gov.uk/tax-uk-income-live-abroad |
Originally Posted by iamryranair
(Post 11519404)
Hi All,
Reading through this forum and want to highlight a couple of things;
Cheers extra 2k on the allowance and sector up to 22950 based on 850 hrs |
Originally Posted by Jonnyknoxville
(Post 11556091)
it’s a little more now
extra 2k on the allowance and sector up to 22950 based on 850 hrs |
Originally Posted by iamryranair
(Post 11519404)
Hi All,
Reading through this forum and want to highlight a couple of things;
Cheers This is not accurate and should be regarded as misleading in many respects. We all know that they are desperate for skippers, and the complete lack of any upgrades for their cadets and first officers due to no training staff means that they are even more desperate for lfs recruitment. The training departs are running with skeleton staff and the rate of departure is telling. New terms and conditions still keeps Ryanair as the poorest paid of the bunch. Only redeeming element appears to be their 5/4 roster. Just be aware that if you are expecting a LHS from the rhs, it's not going to happen for at least another few years. Many of the FO's are fed up with their promises and are seriously set to move on. Ryan doesn't care as they are filling up these losses with cadets rolling in. Would not be surprised to discover that the entry fees may be reduced to compensate. They need aircrew for their proposed expansion plans. If I was part of their terms ballot I would be turning it down as it's not exactly generous by any stretch of the imagination. |
Originally Posted by rotorwills
(Post 11556820)
This is not accurate and should be regarded as misleading in many respects. We all know that they are desperate for skippers, and the complete lack of any upgrades for their cadets and first officers due to no training staff means that they are even more desperate for lfs recruitment. The training departs are running with skeleton staff and the rate of departure is telling. New terms and conditions still keeps Ryanair as the poorest paid of the bunch. Only redeeming element appears to be their 5/4 roster. Just be aware that if you are expecting a LHS from the rhs, it's not going to happen for at least another few years. Many of the FO's are fed up with their promises and are seriously set to move on. Ryan doesn't care as they are filling up these losses with cadets rolling in. Would not be surprised to discover that the entry fees may be reduced to compensate. They need aircrew for their proposed expansion plans. If I was part of their terms ballot I would be turning it down as it's not exactly generous by any stretch of the imagination.
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Originally Posted by BoeingLudo737
(Post 11556975)
Since you are saying it's misleading, what are the salaries to the best of your knowledge? Looks like you just spread rumours
As you represent Ryanair I shall say that you and IamRyanAir indicate that salary levels that are constructed with inflated add ons. Anyone who has grey matter can see that they are misleading. However the really big statement that training is flourishing is erroneous. Ryanair has a lack of training staff and no command upgrades being run as well as none planned. The recruitment is solely focused on skippers. DEC is priority. Please don't not accuse me of rumour spreading I am just pointing out the facts of the matter. I am in training and are in contact with many working in my field spread over many airlines in Europe. I have time for RyanAir and believe they provide great avenues for prospective aviation people, but let's no pretend they have terms and conditions which are competitive. Ryanair provide a route and good luck to all who chose it. It's not for every one but it's a route all the same. |
Originally Posted by rotorwills
(Post 11557077)
As you represent Ryanair I shall say that you and IamRyanAir indicate that salary levels that are constructed with inflated add ons. Anyone who has grey matter can see that they are misleading. However the really big statement that training is flourishing is erroneous. Ryanair has a lack of training staff and no command upgrades being run as well as none planned. The recruitment is solely focused on skippers. DEC is priority. Please don't not accuse me of rumour spreading I am just pointing out the facts of the matter. I am in training and are in contact with many working in my field spread over many airlines in Europe. I have time for RyanAir and believe they provide great avenues for prospective aviation people, but let's no pretend they have terms and conditions which are competitive. Ryanair provide a route and good luck to all who chose it. It's not for every one but it's a route all the same.
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Originally Posted by Lazyturtle
(Post 11557081)
You spout drivel nonstop, other than good entertaining I suggest you to go back to deliver your training because your “facts” have no substance in real life. Whatever your smoking I’d love to have a bit for a fun night out..
Funny. |
Anyone with a Malta Air contract able to share what the net pay is for SFO and CPT ? Thank you!
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Originally Posted by Scorpape
(Post 11558008)
Anyone with a Malta Air contract able to share what the net pay is for SFO and CPT ? Thank you!
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Originally Posted by Lazyturtle
(Post 11558021)
depends on the country. Malta air is just an AOC. Each country has their own CLA.
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Ryanair is a business, the prime role being to provide transport and make money, I'm not sure career development or dream fulfilment is high on their priority list, but job security is part of the package.
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Originally Posted by rotorwills
(Post 11557077)
As you represent Ryanair I shall say that you and IamRyanAir indicate that salary levels that are constructed with inflated add ons. Anyone who has grey matter can see that they are misleading. However the really big statement that training is flourishing is erroneous. Ryanair has a lack of training staff and no command upgrades being run as well as none planned. The recruitment is solely focused on skippers. DEC is priority. Please don't not accuse me of rumour spreading I am just pointing out the facts of the matter. I am in training and are in contact with many working in my field spread over many airlines in Europe. I have time for RyanAir and believe they provide great avenues for prospective aviation people, but let's no pretend they have terms and conditions which are competitive. Ryanair provide a route and good luck to all who chose it. It's not for every one but it's a route all the same.
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i am based in Italy but the numbers is correct, however the voting over the new (UK) deal should finish today. That would make a non-training Captain on 157800£ yearly.
the other countries are still in negotiations… |
UK
Figures on PPJN are accurate as per new addendum to the CLA voted through.
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Can anybody advise what the salary structure is after completing the cadet TR programme? I understand salary is underwhelming initially, but increases after Line Training. I cannot find any consolidates info on initial salary, then increases after hitting milestones such as line check, hour mile stones and month milestones (if any). Say this is for a EASA licence only, UK base in case of any differences
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I would be interested whether anyone else is in the same situation; I completed my TR several weeks ago and still waiting to be assigned somewhere for line training. Any idea on current waiting times? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by VeeeOne
(Post 11577986)
I would be interested whether anyone else is in the same situation; I completed my TR several weeks ago and still waiting to be assigned somewhere for line training. Any idea on current waiting times? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by VeeeOne
(Post 11577986)
I would be interested whether anyone else is in the same situation; I completed my TR several weeks ago and still waiting to be assigned somewhere for line training. Any idea on current waiting times? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Golfss
(Post 11564664)
Can anybody advise what the salary structure is after completing the cadet TR programme? I understand salary is underwhelming initially, but increases after Line Training. I cannot find any consolidates info on initial salary, then increases after hitting milestones such as line check, hour mile stones and month milestones (if any). Say this is for a EASA licence only, UK base in case of any differences
Before 500h expect around 3000€ Between 500h and 1500h anything between 3000 and 6000€ Above 1500h add between 500 and 1000€ on top of that. Very hard to give correct figures but you get the idea :ok: |
Originally Posted by VeeeOne
(Post 11577986)
I would be interested whether anyone else is in the same situation; I completed my TR several weeks ago and still waiting to be assigned somewhere for line training. Any idea on current waiting times? Thanks!
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I completed my Max differences training at the beginning of this month. I asked for any base in the UK (No preference). How long have you been waiting since completion of the Max Differences sim?
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I was listening to Mark Duffy on a podcast about hiring pilots in Brasil. I was surprised when he mentioned the immense numbers of recruited pilots this year compared to the total pilot population.
7000 total RYR pilots 2500 hired pilots this year. Whereoff 1300 cadets. That is 35% of the entire RYR pilot population which was hired last year. What a crazy pilot overturn at the moment. |
Originally Posted by VeeeOne
(Post 11580515)
I completed my Max differences training at the beginning of this month. I asked for any base in the UK (No preference). How long have you been waiting since completion of the Max Differences sim?
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Originally Posted by ptflying
(Post 11587214)
not too long mate, i just did the Base training 1 week ago! Hope you get called soon. From what i hear it’s between 2-3 months from the day you have your lst. This is all dependant on several things though
so are you literally just sat on pay (I.e the AFA 16.8k) doing nothing whilst you wait for line training? |
Originally Posted by Singapore777
(Post 11587290)
so are you literally just sat on pay (I.e the AFA 16.8k) doing nothing whilst you wait for line training?
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Originally Posted by oiatic
(Post 11587575)
Yes we are...
does base training have to be done by a certain point after the LST? I.e they couldn’t delay BT until they were ready for your LT to avoid having to pay you for a few months to do nada |
Originally Posted by Singapore777
(Post 11587778)
that’s remarkable. Staff on pay doing nothing.. that surely keeps MOL up at night.
does base training have to be done by a certain point after the LST? I.e they couldn’t delay BT until they were ready for your LT to avoid having to pay you for a few months to do nada |
Originally Posted by Golfss
(Post 11564664)
Can anybody advise what the salary structure is after completing the cadet TR programme? I understand salary is underwhelming initially, but increases after Line Training. I cannot find any consolidates info on initial salary, then increases after hitting milestones such as line check, hour mile stones and month milestones (if any). Say this is for a EASA licence only, UK base in case of any differences
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