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santacruz 6th January 2022 08:21

Hey guys, any chance of a UK base if applying as DEC?

How is the terms and conditions in the UK bases?

TIA!

captain.weird 6th January 2022 13:45

What are the upgrade terms? Is there any fasttrack?

TorqueStripe 6th January 2022 18:36

[QUOTE=Giuff;11166003]

Originally Posted by Banana Joe (Post 11165996)
Is it 1500 hours on type to qualify as SFO or do previous CS-25 hours count in the grand scheme of things?
I know they factorise hours out of Wizz.[/

Total time on multi engine jet >60 tons are counted towards the assignment of the FO/SFO position.
0.8 or 0.7 depending on the type of operations.
Up to 1500 hrs Airbus fbw Company operational limitations stand.

Pretty sure it's 1500 hours according to their factorization rules in general. You can join as SFO with no experience >60 tons.

Giuff 6th January 2022 18:39

[QUOTE=TorqueStripe;11166320]

Originally Posted by Giuff (Post 11166003)

Pretty sure it's 1500 hours according to their factorization rules. You can join as SFO with no experience >60 tons.

You need to have minimim 1500 factorized hrs in an airline to enter as SFO. You are right. 1500 hrs are for the internal limitations.

TorqueStripe 6th January 2022 20:18


Originally Posted by Giuff (Post 11166323)

You need to have minimim 1500 factorized hrs in an airline to enter as SFO. You are right. 1500 hrs are for the internal limitations.

Again, i don't think it has to be in an airline.
Fast jet pilots, corporate pilots, helicopter pilots... All with different factors, but if a few thousand hours in those multiplied by .3/.5/.7 whatever gets you above 1500, you join as SFO.

Newcomer2 6th January 2022 22:50


Originally Posted by santacruz (Post 11166023)
Hey guys, any chance of a UK base if applying as DEC?

TIA!

Right now big expansion at Gatwick and they don't have enough captains willing to go there.
No idea about the conditions.

Giuff 7th January 2022 04:42


Originally Posted by TorqueStripe (Post 11166367)
Again, i don't think it has to be in an airline.
Fast jet pilots, corporate pilots, helicopter pilots... All with different factors, but if a few thousand hours in those multiplied by .3/.5/.7 whatever gets you above 1500, you join as SFO.


Airline multi engine, non airline multi engine and military fast jet considered. Multi pilot choppers 0.5.
Factors range from 1.0 to 0.2.

best of luck to all.


santacruz 7th January 2022 06:55


Originally Posted by Newcomer2 (Post 11166433)
Right now big expansion at Gatwick and they don't have enough captains willing to go there.
No idea about the conditions.

Thanks!

Does anyone know if the ppjn figures are correct? Very low basic salary but reasonable flight pay on top?

Seems like a very low basic salary for living in London area.

(Ppjn wizzair Uk contract)

kendrick47247 7th January 2022 07:47


Originally Posted by santacruz (Post 11166534)
Thanks!

Does anyone know if the ppjn figures are correct? Very low basic salary but reasonable flight pay on top?

Seems like a very low basic salary for living in London area.

(Ppjn wizzair Uk contract)

Its an awful salary, hence why they are struggling to attract people, even with the glut of pilots available

santacruz 7th January 2022 07:53


Originally Posted by kendrick47247 (Post 11166550)
Its an awful salary, hence why they are struggling to attract people, even with the glut of pilots available

Yes you are going to struggle to get a mortgage with that basic salary. Rent is ridiculous and you hardly want to rely on flight/sector pay to pay your rent!

Is there any official source of the salary numbers or only whats written on ppjn?

Potatos_69 9th January 2022 15:35


Originally Posted by santacruz (Post 11166554)
Yes you are going to struggle to get a mortgage with that basic salary. Rent is ridiculous and you hardly want to rely on flight/sector pay to pay your rent!

Is there any official source of the salary numbers or only whats written on ppjn?

last time i checked ppjn looked fairly accurate.

the salary is crap. which is why they are losing staff

Giuff 9th January 2022 15:42


Originally Posted by Potatos_69 (Post 11167602)
last time i checked ppjn looked fairly accurate.

the salary is crap. which is why they are losing staff

Losing staff? To go where? Tell me.
Salary is crap, i do agree. But Wizz are not losing staff.
We are still in the middle of a pandemic. Its a long way to go.

aviationvictim 9th January 2022 16:57


Originally Posted by Giuff (Post 11167604)
Losing staff? To go where? Tell me.
Salary is crap, i do agree. But Wizz are not losing staff.
We are still in the middle of a pandemic. Its a long way to go.

quite a lot are leaving the industry. It’s becoming clear that the job is nowhere near what was expected and lucky for some they have other qualifications.
Apart from that Wizz T&Cs will never enough to counter balance hostile rosters, no leave with the family, fatigue-long and short term, the constant checking, the real risk of losing everything due to a medical condition, commuting and spending half your life in a shared apartment on FaceTime with your kids and the increasingly hostile working environment that is ultra low cost. Please feel free to add to the list.
Wizz will always have a big turn-over. It is the absolute bottom of the industry so you can really only move upwards.
As long as there is a long list of people that knowingly go out and spend 120.000 on the prospect of working for this outfit they will be successful. My hope is that the young and hopeful read this forum and maybe give the idea of aviation another think before committing.

Giuff 9th January 2022 17:46


Originally Posted by aviationvictim (Post 11167628)
quite a lot are leaving the industry. It’s becoming clear that the job is nowhere near what was expected and lucky for some they have other qualifications.
Apart from that Wizz T&Cs will never enough to counter balance hostile rosters, no leave with the family, fatigue-long and short term, the constant checking, the real risk of losing everything due to a medical condition, commuting and spending half your life in a shared apartment on FaceTime with your kids and the increasingly hostile working environment that is ultra low cost. Please feel free to add to the list.
Wizz will always have a big turn-over. It is the absolute bottom of the industry so you can really only move upwards.
As long as there is a long list of people that knowingly go out and spend 120.000 on the prospect of working for this outfit they will be successful. My hope is that the young and hopeful read this forum and maybe give the idea of aviation another think before committing.

Tons of experienced drivers from ME and far east joined recently. You need an update mate.
Wishful thinking is one thing, reality is another.
There are no jobs outside.
As for the young rich wannabees, they have always been there. Even during happy times.

aviationvictim 9th January 2022 18:00


Originally Posted by Giuff (Post 11167647)
Tons of experienced drivers from ME and far east joined recently. You need an update mate.
Wishful thinking is one thing, reality is another.
There are no jobs outside.
As for the young rich wannabees, they have always been there. Even during happy times.

I have no doubt experienced guys from the ME joined Wizz. After all they were thrown out from one day to the next with zero compensation from companies with similar management styles of Wizz.

They will also be the first to leave again of course.

Wizz are taking advantage of a very unique situation due to covid and other companies will be forced to follow if it continues. The only hope for the rest of us is a quick return to normalcy and maybe a Wizz workforce that will be able to/willing to organise themselves.

TBSC 9th January 2022 18:24


Originally Posted by Giuff (Post 11167647)
Tons of experienced drivers from ME and far east joined recently.

They did already a few years back. Even made it to the management. Turned out to be a real success.

Giuff 9th January 2022 18:25


Originally Posted by aviationvictim (Post 11167654)
I have no doubt experienced guys from the ME joined Wizz. After all they were thrown out from one day to the next with zero compensation from companies with similar management styles of Wizz.

They will also be the first to leave again of course.

Wizz are taking advantage of a very unique situation due to covid and other companies will be forced to follow if it continues. The only hope for the rest of us is a quick return to normalcy and maybe a Wizz workforce that will be able to/willing to organise themselves.

I agree, unfortunately we still have a long way to go to see some kind of normality.
Until then, survival game.

Giuff 9th January 2022 18:28


Originally Posted by TBSC (Post 11167664)
They did already a few years back. Even made it to the management. Turned out to be a real success.

You forget one detail: few years back we did not have a pandemic.
Enough said.

TBSC 9th January 2022 18:32

It would be bad even without the pandemic. It can be used as an excuse for some time but sooner or later you will see their real nature. Just a question of time. It was never about the lack of good pilots but everything else.

kcar 10th January 2022 08:55

What's the deal for NTR DEC in general?
Any bond?
Deductions?
For UK base, would they sponsor a Visa for non-UK residents?

Any general info is highly appreciated.
Cheers


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