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Hmm, would be interesting to hear what they actually said.
2,1 is FRSV plus 20 minutes. |
I would expect that 2.1 included diversion fuel intact. FR fuel from experience hovering around 1.1/1.2. Under normal circumstances Hamilton is the alternate. Toronto has 5 runways so weather not being a factor nothing to stop you committing and using your alternate fuel. Until the LR arrives, I expect there will be planned tech stops over the winter months on some of the longest flights. |
So Toronto (CYYZ) has 10 (!) independent ILS approaches, ie 5 runways with instrument approaches to both ends. I have not flown the 321, old or neo, but I’m pretty certain final reserve is less than 2.100 kg. With weather being ok, all other runways open / availabe in case of one closing down, I don’t see why they declared an emergency at all to be honest. CP |
KyleRB exactly. (Was writing as you posted) |
With that kind of fuel no way that is a "mayday fuel", at best a "minimum fuel" situation, but considering the destination, as already said, I see no problem in being committed, assuming good weather clearly.
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Originally Posted by Lolo75020
(Post 10209962)
Well the b737 is 5 tons lighter and can carry up to 500kg of fuel more.
So even if the Boeing is less efficient than the airbus, I believe that Primera could adjust the max payload in order to match the destination on their network. For instance they could configurate the cabin at 189 pax so 9 less than the airbus in order to be 100% flexible with the rest of the fleet and be able to reach Toronto from Paris. For 189 pax, payload is around 17t. If oew is about 48t then the boeing 737 can carry 23,3 t of fuel which is exactly the fuel quantity of the A321 neo. As it is 5 tons ligher, the boeing will finally makes the same distance up to 4% less efficiency compared to the 321 neo. So no the b737 Max 9 will not be able to match the airbus with the 198 pax. But most probably yes it will be able to reach the same range if payload is adapted. And probably this pay load will be for 189 pax. Thus it will meet the capacity of the rest of the fleet (b737-800) and the aircraft will be able to be used on the long or middle haul with no change in the booking systems. |
Originally Posted by aless85
(Post 10218256)
23.3Tons of fuel, are you sure about that figure....
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The thing here is, that it is way more fuel than the 737MAX can take.
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Originally Posted by FRogge
(Post 10218847)
The thing here is, that it is way more fuel than the 737MAX can take.
https://www.boeing.com/commercial/737max/# |
Okay, I stand corrected. Didn’t know that there was that option. |
Originally Posted by Lolo75020
(Post 10218898)
The b737 Max 9 is equipped with 1 ACT.
https://www.boeing.com/commercial/737max/# Thanks |
Originally Posted by aless85
(Post 10219870)
Just out of curiosity, where did you find this figure of 23T. I fly the MAX 8 of course without Auxiliary tank and on the best day you can fit 21.0T.
Thanks https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_Next_Generation |
B737Max9
Here we are, today Primera has lined out the plans for the next season.
3 b737 Max 9 will be based in BRU for the transatlantic flights. I guess few other bases will be soon announced for the b737 long range as they have ordered 20 machines. I guess the range of the boeing is definitely the same as the 321Neo or even better as Bruxelles is even further than Paris or Stansted. |
How do rosters on the A321Neo Primera look like? |
Primera A321neo LR
Originally Posted by Airbuskutscher
(Post 10240608)
How do rosters on the A321Neo Primera look like? mmmmmm chaotic, shambles, take your pick. Zero Management, massive issues, I would stay away until we see action to sort out a Business out of control............ It could be fantastic, but it is not anywhere close. Payrise pending, but its not just about the T&C, much more about Management steering the Co to success, we are Rudderless |
Hello future G-V driver,
Maybe you can give me a better insight picture....how is the life as a Crew? are they respect each other.....and how are the hotels on stopover. Have you the possibly to make some workout or use the Gym? Regarding the roster how looks a normal month? how many Standby days can I expect. How long was your training and the line training after the OPC/LPC? do you see the same problems still exist if the MAX starts to fly? Is it right that 8 A321NEO on order and two of the are A321NEO LR? and when they are expect to put them on the line....it looks like they still have issue due to the delay delivery from Airbus? Finally my question is it worth thinking about leaving a secured job to work for Primera Air? Thank you in advance for taken your time to answer my question. Best Regards |
mmmmmm chaotic, shambles, take your pick. Zero Management, massive issues, I would stay away until we see action to sort out a Business out of control............ It could be fantastic, but it is not anywhere close. Payrise pending, but its not just about the T&C, much more about Management steering the Co to success, we are Rudderless |
Questions
May can I ask you some questions about Primera? Are you being in the company since first day of flying LH? If yes is the answer why you joined the company. Of course it’s a tough job specially due to departure times and you need to be very restrictive with yourself. I’m not saying that this is definitely my last job but I wanna see something new. Give me a view from your side what are the benefits what are the disadvantages and how are you see the future. In the news they announcing a lot of more airports coming more destinations more planes. To be successful in the future they need to motivate the employees otherwise Stuffing will become difficult a lot of jobs that are actually available. A lot of Writers in this post has negative opinions and meanings of course this is the right of everyone....and that’s good. How are you prepare yourself for the 29th of March next year do you have already Plan B. Thanks for your help |
Originally Posted by wingandprayer
(Post 10257574)
I have been offered a position with Primera, but the contract sucks.......is this the best they can do considering they are short of crew?
https://www.eurocockpit.be/news/little-differently-philosophy-primera-air About a year ago the DFO was quoted saying how happy the company was to see airBerlin and Monarch go belly up. Despite most pilots being picked up by the likes of easyjet, BA, Virgin, TUI etc. he argued there will always be a few in the bankrupt companies that slid through the recruitment process once with an established airline, however would have a hard time passing it a second time. Those would be welcomed to join Primera to the conditions you describe, as they would have nowhere else to go... Sure, not a first hand quote that I've heard myself but a reliable source. |
Utter garbage and rather offensive to myself and my colleagues. Whilst I fully accept terms and conditions need ramping up to attract and retain good crews together with better rostering and planning, the rest is just an ignorant smear. I personally passed selection for 2 other airlines, one in UK and one in Asia. I choose Primera because I could stay on type, live 30 minutes from my base and also do longhaul. The challenges and opportunities in a start up can also be an attraction.
Many of my colleagues are from good airlines like Monarch, Thomas Cook, Turkish, WOW, Alitalia, Gulf Air, Etihad, Jetstar Asia etc as well as a few ex military pilot backgrounds. To say they only ended up at Primera because they weren’t good enough to go anywhere else is a nasty smear irrespective of the alleged source! |
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