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Airone2977 14th March 2018 12:29

Any ideas of upcoming selection for NTR FO's ?

Deano777 14th March 2018 14:13

The number 1 on the seniority list is on the Embraer so it's largely irrelevant. If you are looking at DEC then the chances are quite slim, if you are looking at first officer positions then you never know. If you don't get in straight away then you will probably realise your bid reasonably quickly dependant on attrition. If the industry goes on lockdown then forget it. As for sim seat filling, it's irrelevant where you're based, if you're on standby and they need you then you'll sim seat fill. It's not that common an occurrence using the same person over and over.

jp54 14th March 2018 14:26

They have been running assessments recently for graduates from certain flight schools.

4engines4longhaul 14th March 2018 16:29

Aimhigh and Deano thanks for that info. Yep it would be for DEC on the Q400.

Deano777 14th March 2018 17:27

4engines

In that case Exeter will probably be a no go to start with, however as we all know in this game you just never know but your chances are quite slim. It doesn't mean you won't get it in the future though should you not be lucky enough to get it at the start. With all these things it'll come down to how desperate things get for captains on seats. If they need captains desperately then it has been known to overbear a base, but in doing so you do run the risk of being displaced in the future. Questions you can ask at the interview stage.

Good luck

Flocks 14th March 2018 21:11

Someone ask
Sled for FO on Scotland. There is not always logic in flybe. I spoke with 2 FO, one is doing 86 HR in April, the other one (yes he had holiday, 9days and a 3 days SIM) but he is doing only 26hr ...

Any case, at this end you ll never go more than 750jr now ... So if you you do 3 busy months with 90hr, does mean 9 months will 53hr only ... I personally like it.

VFE 15th March 2018 12:57

Well put Windshearescape! Hours without quantifying is pointless and gives no indication about lifestyle, time away from home, etc.

JliderPilot 15th March 2018 18:28

Some rubbish being spouted here. Please get your facts straight.

I think 10 nights away in a month (without volunteering for it) is rare. Let’s say once in 6 months depending on seat and base. Many who do not live locally ask for extra night stops.

53 block hours is about 14 working days or less. FlyBe (dash8) do some two sector days. Some of these two sector days will be 4 or 5 block hours.

Deano777 15th March 2018 18:48

Correct. 10 nights away is not normal for everyone. Some bases and fleets do night stops as they cover remotely based aircraft (MAN ejet covering NQY), some don't. You can submit a preference for either minimum, normal or maximum night stops, but it's just that, a preference, for example my preference is maximum but I've done 5 nights away in a year.

Flocks 15th March 2018 21:31


Originally Posted by JliderPilot (Post 10084960)
Some rubbish being spouted here. Please get your facts straight.

I think 10 nights away in a month (without volunteering for it) is rare. Let’s say once in 6 months depending on seat and base. Many who do not live locally ask for extra night stops.

53 block hours is about 14 working days or less. FlyBe (dash8) do some two sector days. Some of these two sector days will be 4 or 5 block hours.

+1 ... Even if I agree it really depends of the base and some are doing more block hours for less duty than other, say you always work 21days is not true, you have 115 days off garantee + 35 days holiday for captain. If you are rostered a CDO (company days off, if rostered 2 days off in a raw, garantee minimum of 60hr and roster will try to give you 64jr as much as they can, if less than 60hr free, they have to give you 1 CDO and one day off, in that case rest can be reduce to 54hr but the CDO does not count in the 115 days off) I had 6 CDO last year, so 115+35+6 = 156 = 13 days off a months and ofc standby are all from home, lately nobody call me ... The 2 sector days are a really good stuff.
In march I had 11 days off, 5 days on with 2 sectors, longest 1h30 block, shortest 50mn block and I did 87hr, so ratio of 4h36mn block a day for an average duty day of 07h50mn. It is a busy months for me, I had 19 days off in January, 16 in November, 18 in December ... Again not the best but not the worse ...

Flocks 15th March 2018 21:57


Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123 (Post 10085181)
Guys/gals. Honestly I’m on min nightstopping and recently had 9 days off in a month and still got 6 nights away in the month!!!!

December had 7 nights away and had 5 days off over Xmas.
Got 4 nights away in April and thats before midway through the month.

I don’t mind the extra money but with young kids it is difficult and I know guys doing more night stops than me.

Certainly at SOU we are nightstopping a lot.

From what I know, because you "lost some plane in SOU" but still same work force, I think it explain why so much night stop. In EDI we had none in the winter, zero, and I heard we ll have none in the summer as well ...
Like I said, it seems big difference between base ... What is I agree not always fair ... In edi people now complain no more night stop because no chance to have extra money ...

JliderPilot 16th March 2018 14:51

A pretty aggressive response there my friend. Bet your a pleasure to fly with ;)

mikehammer 17th March 2018 09:15

Flystobartbe?
 
Any news on the Stobart bid for FlyBe, and any wild speculation on the changes if a purchase were to take place?

Deano777 17th March 2018 10:17

All quiet on the Western Front.

Oh there's always speculation, the issue is it's subjective and relevant to each individual's personal opinion, it just gives us something else to talk about on the flightdeck.

Flocks 17th March 2018 11:58

I think according to the law the have to do an announcement about it on the 22th of march. Whatever if they want to buy or not but to clarify their position. So we ll see on the 22th, I personally see that as a positive think if they buy, ofc depending of what is their plan ...

Deano777 17th March 2018 12:18

A positive? You really think Flybe will be recognisable as it is today? We are not profitable, there will be major changes, there is no way on God's earth manning levels and bases will go untouched. I'd keep an eye over your shoulder.

mikehammer 17th March 2018 14:01

I agree with Deano, especially the flight deck bit!
I work for another regional carrier but rumours abound in our organisation too, about Flybe and Stobart, Stobart and Loganair (the Carlisle base a route proving exercise on behalf of Stobart), the future of Flybe, the future of their latest franchise. It's all solid gossip material for the longer sectors.

Flocks 17th March 2018 14:10

Depend. We literally have no idea ... We are not profitable, yes and for what? our load are good, plane burn no fuel and 80pr cent of our flight we have no competitor ... Of someone bring money on the table and want to become a major regional operator, maybe they can do good stuff ... Change in base ... maybe, I understand it is annoying for familly life and all, but let s be honest in our business it was, it is, and it will be always the same, nothing is in the stone for 50years ... We will see ... Nothing I can do on my level

Deano777 17th March 2018 15:33

I take it you weren't around in 2012 then, Flocks? Rest assured if there's base culls there will be personnel culls. You might not get the option of moving your family. Take over or not, from a flight crew perspective I'm fearing another !!!!! storm coming our way and I don't have an umbrella. You haven't got to be a brain surgeon to see it.

six-sixty 17th March 2018 18:39


Originally Posted by Deano777 (Post 10087143)
I take it you weren't around in 2012 then, Flocks? Rest assured if there's base culls there will be personnel culls. You might not get the option of moving your family. Take over or not, from a flight crew perspective I'm fearing another !!!!! storm coming our way and I don't have an umbrella. You haven't got to be a brain surgeon to see it.

and this time round, I won't ask for Mrs Sixty's permission before taking VR if it's offered. Best opportunity I never took.


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