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Direct Bondi 27th January 2016 19:33

Norwegian is a labor relations disaster with potential for further unrest.

When applying definition terms used by the International Labor Organization, Norwegian is the real employer. The ILO Guide to Regulating the Employment Relationship in Europe contains an abundance of legally binding "employer" definitions from various EU countries. The guide may be downloaded at:-

http://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/pub...cms_209280.pdf

Hypocritically, Norwegian declares on its company website;

We place great importance on ensuring compliance with employee’s basic human rights as outlined in the International Labor Organization’s core conventions” - Link:-

https://www.norwegian.com/uk/about/company/corporate-responsibility/human-worth/

tripulante521 31st January 2016 15:26

reasons people resign from NLH:

1) is obviously rostering, planning, etc... But more than all that it is the attitude of some people of those department (especially Replanning). They are arrogant, rude, incompetent and definitely not helpful, for them it is only going their way. They don't see it as a win/win situation.
2) is the contract : pension, social security, insurance...
3) is the salary : as we have no pension having significantly more to give us the chance to invest.

Nearly Man 31st January 2016 21:09

Sadly tripulante521 is spot on.
How they've got the balls to say the rostering is getting better is beyond belief.

maybepilot 3rd February 2016 00:26

Register now for the Norwegian Long Haul and Rishworth Aviation B787 Pilot Roadshow - Rishworth Aviation

I wonder how many F/O's will fall into their propaganda trap during the roadshows, EU bases and quick upgrades will be what they will try to sell.
They won't tell you about being hired by a Singapore agency, based in LGW on a cr@ppy temporary contract, on a horrible roster, being thrown all over the globe in a totally disorganized and random way by a bunch of ops amateurs.
As far as Captains are concerned I seriously doubt anyone working in the middle east would want to even come close to Norwegian.

captplaystation 3rd February 2016 00:46

"quick upgrades" ? yeah, the Contractor FO's on the 737 will give you a better idea than me . . . .depends what you mean by "quick" . . .quick like Ryanair ? or quick like SAS ?

Anyhow, suffice to say , most Contract FO's who came from Ryanair did not find it sufficiently quick, and on the 787, well, you have still DEC's (same prob as 737 ) and CRZ Capts in the way (with the CRZ Capts suffering the same blight as the 737 FO's I.E DEC's )

Believe nothing you are told at interview, truly, don't .

Goingbananas 15th February 2016 20:11

Pilots leaving Norwegian long haul /roadshows
 
I have heard that more than 30 pilots resigned and almost 40 reaching the end of their contracts in one month. No reasonable renewal contract have been offered but even worse T&C. I am going to attend a roadshow in April and wondering why so many are leaving.

pinasse33 19th February 2016 00:40

Anybody can send me his roster of LGW capt based..
i''m looking any information there...
thks
cheers...

MrBean330 26th February 2016 19:00

Belgian pilots for Norwegian 787
 
Hi guys,

Any Belgian 787 pilots here that would send me their PM? I would like to have a chat before applying at Rishworth. My e-mail: [email protected].

Thanks a lot, this would help me greatly in the decision making!

negativeclimb 29th February 2016 07:34

Hi friends,
I need some Infos about tax in uk. rishworth gave some figures for FO which are:
Gross pay £4150
Per diem: £830

Considering to come back from Asia and having a wife with no job, how much will be the net figures? Anyone in my same situation?
I don't have any clue about where to move my residency if is better to register my family in uk or Italy.
Please do not blame my choice I have to come back, my parents are getting old and one is sick, my wife wants to come back in Europe.

Thank you so much for who will help me to figure out how it will be.

RTO 4th March 2016 16:18


I have heard that more than 30 pilots resigned and almost 40 reaching the end of their contracts in one month. No reasonable renewal contract have been offered but even worse T&C. I am going to attend a roadshow in April and wondering why so many are leaving.
The end of contract is going down like this: Kjos' henchman, that runs this LH sharade holds a gun to their heads and telling them "accept degraded T&C or I will fire you and make up the slack with wetlease"

Don't we all dream of working for "people" like this?

captplaystation 5th March 2016 07:36

Seems the "Dream;)Liner" is regressing to its former troublesome past



http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...ound-test.html


http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...-collapse.html


And yes, "The Norwegian Way" is perhaps not as you may be expecting it, if you had watched the cheesy recruitment/staff motivation videos so beloved of management with no intention of honouring the principles championed in them.

highfive 7th March 2016 06:32

The €40000 is too much for an old dog line moi to shell out . As much as id like to fly the 787 , it still any other widebody twin. I cant leave my current repetitive but secure position for the unknown.
I'm sure its ok as long as it lasts ( 3 years) but too stressful if it goes south.
It seemed like the perfect job but all things considered, i wont be signing this contract .

twentyyearstoolate 7th March 2016 12:09


Originally Posted by highfive (Post 9302638)
It seemed like the perfect job but all things considered, i wont be signing this contract .

Perfect Job except for the short contract, insecure employment, ever changing conditions, very very low pay, high taxes.......:8

Winston 7th March 2016 17:24

Would a current Line Captain be kind enough to share a typical roster month?

Thanks

Direct Bondi 10th March 2016 08:05

uchy, 5 Jan:
“someone can kindly show us an example of a typical monthly roster”

Mach 81, 6 Jan:
“Still looking for an example of a roster…”

Catacroker, 26 Jan:
“Does anyone have a roster?”

pinasse 33, 19 February:
“Anybody can send me his roster of LGW capt based”

Winston, 7 March:
“Would a current Line Captain be kind enough to share a typical roster month?”

There are no public responses to the above. Is it possible the smiling rock-ape has misled pilots regarding their Dreamliner, bonded lifestyle?

SONNY731 25th March 2016 15:38

Anyone got an up to date figure for a Year 1 Captain?? I have been quoted two different figures of £7470 and £8125?! Thanks.

Luibar 26th March 2016 20:25

As far as I know it is £7470 + £830 per diem. Figures from Rishworth.

The Crew 28th March 2016 06:33

The above figures are correct. Dont forget the allowances are upto £830 and must be claimed for duty time Ex UK ie layovers, on a daily basis.

It will be interesting to see what effect the US state Department travel warning has on the trans Atlantic travel market , the meat of NLH ( and BAs) profits.
" The State Department alertsU.S. citizens to potential risks of travel to and throughout Europe following several terrorist attacks, including the March 22 attacks in Brussels claimed by ISIL. "

jojo737 9th April 2016 11:43

British pound devaluation / Euro
 
Hi Guys ,
Since severale weeks we assist of a devaluation of the Pound .
For non UK resident, it's a big losse of incomes.
Do yo have in your Risworth contrat a protection against this devaluation.
The brexit in UK is soon what Will happen if the No is winner.
Anyone can explain me ?
Thanks a lot

MR1 10th April 2016 11:41

Hello,
I would be interested to get some more information about the 787 RC interview and the recruitment process. Thanks for your time!


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