Thank you much youthinkso

If the average sector length at Thomson is 3.5 hours then you are clearly not working 5 days per week. X on, Y off statements don't paint an accurate picture in the charter business as deep night as well as early morning arrivals give you the same if not significantly more time off than LCC pilots. We spend more time in the cruise getting fatigued but LCC pilots get fatigued by 4 very quick turnarounds in a day. Its a very tiring job. Full stop.

I'm only telling you what the former 5 on 4 off no deep night pilots who join Thomson are telling Thomson Pilots, there is no willy waving here, just information for consideration, roster construction has a very significant impact on fatigue and quality of life/lifestyle.....


Are night shifts killing me? - BBC News

do 5/6/7 on with sometimes day off or blank in the middle and one or two off at the end on those average secor lengths and you are looking at 100hours FT..in 28 combined with the 10 days off, that's why the overtime system is not working as designed because there is no fat to give someone a duty without taking them off another.

You think so

The guys working 5 on 4 off by chance do you know what FTL they are working to? CAP371 or EU Sub Part Q

So which scheme provides better roster construction then? CAP371 or EASA FTL (e.g. no limits on earlies, lates and nights which is what Sub Part Q offers.

Let's wait and see perhaps?

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yeah it's no secret that MOL was opposed to EASA FTL's (strangely aligned with BALPA) vs UK commercial airlines who were in favour. Simply because for non UK FTL schemes the new schemes introduces restrictions, hence MoL opposition. UK airlines in favour because it relaxes several CAP371 components. Lets face it EASA FTL ain't going to do anything positive for those of us operating to G Reg FTL's hence BALPAs failed attempt to try and stop it coming in, I won't hold my breathe for it improving lifestyle that's for sure !! in terms of 5&4 I'm talking about the grouped days off and being able to plan your life with some degree of certainty beyond 30 days notice.....

Shouldn't that be when you start reporting fatigued? When enough people start raising the issue, things will have to change, no? A lot of companies rely on the goodwill of the workforce to 'get the job done', but at what cost?

Thomson recruitment.
 

Historically UK charter airlines have never offered fixed patterns of days off due to the seasonal nature of the programme and it's variability e.g Tunisia comes along. Mature airlines like Thomson offers roster protections such as block window whereas "newer" airlines such as Jet 2 it's a bun fight. If anyone could offer a fixed roster it would be Thomson

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Just to get an idea....
Could anyone flying at Thomson PM me one of his summer month roster?
I would very appreciate it.
Thanks

PFO just received. Not disappointed, but thought I'd let people know.

Would you please state your "profile"?
Thanks

My profile? As in my experience?

I can't imagine they want to know your Age / Sex / Location ;-)

Well knowing my 'profile' is useless too I'd imagine. You either write a good application or you don't and I'd assume having more or less hours makes little difference at this stage, providing you have the minimum required.

5500 TT, most of which is 737, and 2000 as PIC.

Thanks. That' s what I was looking for.
Teobull

Invited to assessment, 2000 hours B738, Anyone know anything about the assessment process?

Thanks.

Any non rated guys hearing either way? Or will they go through rated applicants first and then Non rated if inadequate numbers are reached?

All the best

VJW, same Pfo as well.
Very experienced SFO, lots of hours.
Oh well they may want monkeys.....

I'm pretty sure applicants aren't prioristised in order of their experience. To be honest if you have PIC or high hours on the 737 then there is probably a good question to be asked as to why a part time position with Thomson is of interest to you.

And yet you are applying to Norwegian ! Or were you being sarcastic in the post to that thread ?

Well I am a low timer <1500hrs. I spoke to a Norwegian pilot who has been given a 50% winter contract and they were very positive about the job there :confused:

Is Thomson a better option than Norwegian?