FR have ad for Learjet Captains on their web site, carrying spares not punters :\

Still not heard anything. Anyone else got a response?

Does anyone have any info on the assesment day? Been called for an assesment next week? Pay, deal, bases etc? All info would be appreciated:ok:

I applied for the DEC, but for a perm contract only. Have had an agency phone and email me ever since, asking if i'd like to give up my full time contract to become an agency worker in southern Italy.

Errrmmm no.

So, RYR illegally divulged you confidential details to others? Why am I not surprised.

Hey guys, does anyone know If Brookfield are still issuing new contracts on behalf of Ryanair. And if not does anyone know why? Are there any other new recruitment agencies involved with Ryan? Thought this was the best place to pose the question due to the large amount of experienced Ryan guys here, if not my apologies. Thanks and safe flying

I don't think Brookfield are taking any more - promotions are onto permanent staff RYR cntracts and they are trying to move FOs over as well. I could speculate as to why, but may end up writing one of those "I have made a donation to charity" posts for doing so. ;) However, we have all seen the various things happening across the EU to Brookfield pilots in RYR.

I think there are still contracts being opened up with Storm McGinley.

Thanks for the quick reply Aluminium shuffler. I have googled a few headlines re Brookfield and Ryanair, I see what you mean. However do Storm treat their guys better? Is it due to Brookfield management or a falling out with pilots? All just my own humble opinion of coarse.

As far as I know, only pay and tax issues are arranged through the agency, everything else being under direct control of RYR.

recurrent cost
 

Is it true that you have to pay for recurrent costs in FR?

yes if you are a contractor 4.50 euro will be deducted from your hourly scheduled block hour.

just better not to even think about it.

you get nothing for free in Ryanair. Not even a lanyard for the ID you pay for :)

To clarify, CONTRACTORS pay for recurrent training, but employed staff do not. They do tend to nick a day off "for training purposes" each time you're in the sim, presumably because the management believe it's just like playing the X-Boxes that the IT department seem to spend far too much time on.

rating cost
 

so how much do they charge for the type rating

2 seconds on google gives this..

https://pilot.cae.com/programs/ryanair.aspx?prog=6

Thanks, but I meant the DEP contract. How much do they deduct from you, hourly, yearly?

Ryanair contract - €0/£0
Provider contract as per provider agreement, fixed amount per hour earned and fixed amount per hour for training costs, covering your entire training requirements on an annual basis to maintain currency for the airline (ground school, simulator, fire training,...).

CP35- as above RYR contract deduct nothing, the agency deducts €4.50 per hour worked, so even if you do 1 hour you will pay 4.50 or the full 900, so it varies on how much you fly, no set rate per month or per year, hope that helps

Hi guys,

just a question about the IAA license.

I hold a EASA PART FCL - ATPL. Moving to Ryanair you have to transfer your License to Ireland and obtain a IAA License. They collect your EASA and give you the irish one (you can't hold 2 EU License at the same time).

If, one day, you want to apply to another airline how does it work? Are you considered a EASA holder or it is a single case to be evaluated by the recruitment team?
Usually, the European carrier's job posts are like:

JAR FCL or EASA PART FCL License
XXX Total Flight time
YYY on type
etc.

I cannot imagine that Ryanair's pilots are not eligible for screenings, rather they are always around doing assessments :}

PS: obviously, in case you want to go back to EASA you can't use the IAA for flying and have obtained an EASA as well, as they collect your License to deliver the new one. So at the time you apply for an airline and you are still flying with ryan, you just have the IAA.

Changing your state of licence issue (SOLI - You'll get to know this term if ever doing it to the UK) to Ireland will not give you an IAA national licence, it will give you an IAA issued EASA licence. This is the problem with the 2 licences thing, because I *think* it IS actually possible to keep a national licence in one country and hold an EASA licence in another... I am not 100% sure about this but it is not relevant.

What it means in the end is that you aren't CONSIDERED to be an EASA licence holder, you actually ARE one, the same as before. It will just be administered by a different country/authority.

In theory Ryanair should have no reason to ask you to change your state of licence issue to Ireland. I believe that the only practical reason they does is that most/all their TRE's are under the IAA and thus would (again, this is what I am led to believe I am not 100%) require a briefing from the UK CAA/other authority in order to conduct LST's etc for a non IAA licence holder.

It makes sense to me, thanks!

type rating cost
 

They say the cost of a type rating is 27500, payable at 5.5/hr, yet the contract is for 5 years.if you fly the max hours in a year you only pay back 24500, are you still liable for the rest.

CP35

They say who says what?

The cost of the Type is €27,500 and it's paid upfront day 1 by you

Unless there has just been a massive about face of the company and they are now bonding guys which I highly doubt.

I guess it's hard to find NTR DEC who would pay there TR on day 1

For the First Officers, they charge 4.5 Euro/hr every month for training costs (sim ride, courses etc.), maybe you are referring to this (Captain should be 5.5 as you said)

That training deduction is for RECURRENT training only, not the type rating.

Sim
 

Ok guys - anyone knows what the sim consists of for direct entry FO's?

Used to 4 sessions for rated FO's.
NTR pilots require a standard type conversion training.

Could be true, the intel I’m receiving from the few colleagues I have left there, tell me they are running low on TRE/TRI as well...

Qr
 

Hello somebody knows how is the interview selection for direct entry CPT non rated?
Thanks

I got the same phone call and subsequent email canceling my assessment. The reason given was that they are prioritizing the captain courses before the fo.
Not sure if it's bull or not.

Well if you believe the alleged 'crew shortage' stories about Ryanair then it would make perfect sense to prioritise the intake of DEC's.

Look how you guys are being treated even before the interview! Short on Captains for a reason!

donnie, the shortage is not hard to believe; it's the extent of it which is so staggering.

For those worried about being turned away, don't - RYR currently seem to be even more short of FOs than Captains. FOs are easier to source, though, which is why they may be focusing on Capts for now, scooping up all they can before another company gets them. Further, RYR allow two Capts to fly together routinely, if needed, so they can cope better with an FO shortage than a Capt shortage.

Cancel an interview - big deal.

pudoc - Is that any worse than so called big carriers holding 100s of wannabes in holding pools and telling them everything will be ok, to then shaft the lot and set them free without even an apology.

Lets put a cancelled interview in perspective.

Don't worry they will call you back - they need you.

Hi there,

I have the assestment for DEP First Officer next 24 Jun in STD. Any info regarding the tech questions??.

Thanks in advance

What is a DEP F/O? Is that a new rank?

Direct entry pilot First officer

Can you enter indirect as a F/O?

You must be joking. Anyway if You have Any info please share...

Any idea how much is making a direct entry FO (with experience on type) and type of contracts are they offering at the moment?
Cheers