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Right Engine 22nd May 2015 20:23

BA need around 200 Airbus rated DEP's right now. Pilots who can do the abbreviated conversion course with minimum sectors/fuss. So if you're being asked back sooner than you thought, there's your answer in black and white.

Superpilot 22nd May 2015 21:42

power.on.spin

August last year

power.on.spin 22nd May 2015 21:59

Best of luck. Now you know what to expect you'll be fine.

toplux 23rd May 2015 08:31

Has anyone with no a320 TR been able to reapply before the 12months?

Harry palmer 23rd May 2015 10:44

It appears they want A320 rated only. I'm non rated and got to the Sim last year. I can see why there's the requirement and its great people are being given an early second shot. Are guys getting a recall just to redo the sim? What does it mean for future attempts for non rated people as and when? A change to the recruitment process like that being used for Type rated people on further attempts?

Wirbelsturm 23rd May 2015 10:50

HP,

BA is a simple beast and they go for the path of least resistance first. Let the type rated tranche die down first and then wait and see what their next cunning stunt will be.

You might be pleasantly surprised. :ok:

Harry palmer 23rd May 2015 11:45

Very much hope so.

toplux 23rd May 2015 20:31

I'm in that exact situation HP.

Originally Posted by Harry palmer (Post 8986908)
It appears they want A320 rated only. I'm non rated and got to the Sim last year. I can see why there's the requirement and its great people are being given an early second shot. Are guys getting a recall just to redo the sim? What does it mean for future attempts for non rated people as and when? A change to the recruitment process like that being used for Type rated people on further attempts?


JamandJar 23rd May 2015 21:24

If they only want rated applicants why did they advertise for Managed Path military people? Do they get an A320 type rating when they leave?

Harry palmer 23rd May 2015 21:30

The DEP and managed entry is open but the above is referenced to people who didn't get through selection in the last round getting contacted to reapply inside of the 12 month reapplication ban. Those that have been contacted so far are all A320 rated.

JamandJar 23rd May 2015 21:51

Thanks Harry - I just wondered why not invite none type rated people too. Surely that ex military people are also none rated?

Jumbo2 24th May 2015 08:35

The pilots applying under the managed path option have a very long lead time before they can actually start their employment with BA. Unlike DEP who generally have a 1-3 months notice period, the armed forces have one which could be anything up to a year. Hence why managed path is probably open since successful candidates will only slot in somewhere over the next twelve months (on the line for summer 2016). While at the same time the rated DEP pilots are fast tracked because of the current requirement for Airbus pilots.

cessnapete 24th May 2015 08:47

Not a large number, but RAF Voyager/A330 crew with the required previous experience, can get an EASA ATPL with Airbus Type Rating, (A330/350)with the Course. AirTanker is also a civil ATO with EASA rated Instructors.

Wirbelsturm 24th May 2015 09:12

The military managed path, RAFCARs as it used to be known, has a long lead in time for the participant. For example the process starts when the applicant is within the last 2 years of their military service.

Oddly enough it is quite tricky getting an EASA licence on anything the military flys except for the Voyager which is run by a civvie company! The RAF managed to spectacularly mismanage the alleviations process from National to JAR to EASA. Go figure.

BA has a history of sourcing from a wide variety of backgrounds, Cadets, Self Improvers, DEP's and Military. Given the large amount of ex-military pilots in the mamangement food chain I wouldn't expect that to change even though the source of ex-military pilots is slowing to a trickle as the vicious defence cuts over the past 2 decades take their toll.

As the recruitment of Managed Path applicants often runs non concurrently to DEP applications there can be no correlation between the two. The process only allows direct access to Braincrank for interview, often without a valid civvie licence. The application process and timeline take this into account.

I'm sure that non-type rated re-applications will occur if and when the flow of necessary type rated applicants is exhausted. Rumour has it that, for reasons given in a previous post, the number of overall applications wasn't overwhelming!

Harry palmer 24th May 2015 12:20

Has anyone been recalled just to attend the Sim or day two? Certainly interesting times at BA.

VJW 24th May 2015 14:50

I know one lad that passed day one and has been asked to redo the interview only...ie pick up from there on day 2..

Harry palmer 24th May 2015 15:07

I take it he's also A320 rated too? Any indication of how many are being recalled?

Primary Governor 25th May 2015 11:52

I was invited last week, I checked the slots available, all were for 22nd, 23rd, 24th of June. I will be on duty in my current roster during those dates so I wasn't able to pick them. Now when I login there aren't any slots available.

I've emailed them but no reply thus far.

Does anybody have any idea how long an invitation to assessment day 1 is valid for? I guess not as long as I'm currently hoping for but just wondering if anyone could share.

Widebdy 26th May 2015 08:46

Invitation is valid as long as recruitment is open I would suspect, but can not confirm.

As for the discussion about recalls and why non rated are not being recalled, don't over complicate the situation with theories or discussions on military V DEP etc. BA need pilots on the line now. Naturally the first port of call is to target rated pilots.

If that does not work obviously the net naturally needs to be extended. Patience.

Harry palmer 27th May 2015 14:36

I see the DEP application has reopened again closing on the 8th of June! Still inside 12 months, unless the recall reaches non rated people. Are they just not getting the numbers applying that's required for 2015?


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