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It is very easy to understand why it was voted in - BALPA recommended it. Within BA, pretty much all ballots go the way BALPA recommends. A very large proportion of the membership cannot even be bothered to read the detail of what they are voting for.

I agree with your point about the sustainability of rosters at the bottom of JSS. BALPA are desperately tweaking inhibitors in an attempt to find a solution which is not as drastic as rolling seniority, but it has not really worked so far. I think the time will come where they have to at least vary the block of seniority affected by global constraints and crew repair. Hitting the same people over and over and over with extra work is not going to be tolerated in the long term. In the past, extra work was given to those who were not working so hard. With JSS, extra work is going to those at the bottom until they can work no harder, regardless of how hard the senior guys are working. That is inefficient rostering and will lead to sickness at the bottom, which will lead to more inefficiency. BA will not accept that and will demand solutions.

king surf

22nd May 2019 12:42

Ai I said before time will tell but I think BA need to address JSS issues sooner rather than later. It might work for those at the top but falls way short of giving a junior pilot a reasonable roster.

Daddy Fantastic

29th May 2019 01:59

What are the chances of a new hire with enough time for upgrade on the A320 getting LHR instead of LGW purely for the fact they could possibly be commuting so would prefer tours instead of coming back most nights like I believe is what happens at LGW.

Also what are pilots likely to end up on that are accepted in the DEP program? Is there room to negotiate which fleet you would like. I would prefer 320 to long haul as a commuter.

Im only going on my experience which is 6000 hours and 3000 plus jet hours, 2000 plus twin turboprop hours.

Any input is much appreciated.

Lafyar Cokov

29th May 2019 12:43

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Anyone know what the constraints are for reapplication? Receiving mixed messages. Thank you.

If you have taken the Maths/Verbal Reasoning/Aptitude tests then its 12 months from then - if you didn't get that far then its 6 months....

737275

31st May 2019 18:05

Can anyone shed some light on the reapplication process? I’m just coming up on a year since an unsuccessful assesment, and hoping to re apply. Dose the website just free you up to reapply, or is there something else that needs to be done. Any info appreciated.

rotordisk

31st May 2019 23:05

I applied in December but I didn't get a reply.. It says that I can't apply now..

CXKA	1st June 2019 06:50

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Originally Posted by rotordisk (Post 10483871)

I applied in December but I didn't get a reply.. It says that I can't apply now..

You should only have a 12 month embargo if you attended one of the stages at Waterside or the Sim Centre and were not successful, the clock starts I believe is from the date of your last stage.

Best of luck

red9	1st June 2019 08:17

I heard there has been some mass resignations on B777 recently ?

Cattivo

1st June 2019 10:18

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Originally Posted by 99jolegg (Post 10473380)

CL - compassionate leave
LA - annual leave with wraparound days after x4
LB - annual leave with wraparound days before x3
WR - wrap around days off (workable)
BW - bank withdrawal
SW - not sure off the top of my head
S2, S3, S4, S5 - simulator. The number refers to the time slot. I2, I3, I4, I5 would refer to the instructor’s roster.
NA - non-assignable day associated with DD usually
DD - duty free week associated with NA day at the beginning. Can be worked in if desired.
ZZ - break, usually to denote days off after a trip on reserve
RP - reserve period
PR - protected day off, for a variety of reasons
PL - not sure EDIT: paternity leave
PD - part-time days off
GT - ground training e.g. SEP
GD - ground duty
LFS - Leading Flight Safety course
FDO - fixed days off associated with a reserve period
HSB - HSB associated with a reserve period

Depending on the roster format you’re looking at but you can usually tell by the destinations.

SW = Swap
PL = Parental Leave ie annual allowance, unpaid

rotordisk

1st June 2019 11:28

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Originally Posted by CXKA (Post 10484000)

I didn’t attend any stage and I did not even get a response.
The only thing I got was a confirmation that my application had been submitted.

Jumbo2

1st June 2019 15:45

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Originally Posted by rotordisk (Post 10484135)

I didn’t attend any stage and I did not even get a response.
The only thing I got was a confirmation that my application had been submitted.

It might be your application is still in the pipeline to be reviewed. Maybe send recruitment an email or give them a ring. They are a really friendly bunch who are very helpful and understanding.

rotordisk

1st June 2019 15:58

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Originally Posted by Jumbo2 (Post 10484260)

It might be your application is still in the pipeline to be reviewed. Maybe send recruitment an email or give them a ring. They are a really friendly bunch who are very helpful and understanding.

thanks
Do you know what the application status should say when I have been rejected? On the BA job website.

TheAirMission

1st June 2019 17:16

Recruitment automatic email FAQs:

I was unsuccessful at a previous British Airways recruitment application, when can I reapply?

If you had stumbled at the initial online application screening stage, you would be eligible to apply again after 6 months. If you attended Waterside for any of the subsequent selection stages, the wait is 12 months from the date of testing, or 6 months from any other stage of application whichever is the greater.

Mrglass

2nd June 2019 09:27

Maybe not the ideal thread for this queation, but how will the LHR ULEZ affect BA employees and their ability to park at LHR?

Are BA employees essentially going to have to pay to go to work and park in a private vehicle?

Has this issue been raised internally or by the Union?

Just curious.

Thanks.

wiggy

2nd June 2019 11:09

I think you are correct AH....Heathrow media statement here.

As I understand it from other sources those working at the airport will be exempt from the charges.

Toolonginthisjob

3rd June 2019 10:27

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I heard there has been some mass resignations on B777 recently ?

You we’re misled.

wiggy

4th June 2019 07:02

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Originally Posted by red9 (Post 10484035)

I heard there has been some mass resignations on B777 recently ?

As Toolong says it’s definitely “Fake News”, though in various forms it has been circulating for a few days. Don’t know why how or why it started and FWIW yours is the first version where it’s been tagged as being associated with a specific fleet.

GS-Alpha

4th June 2019 08:19

I expect it is a case of Chinese whispers. There are more than a few people looking at other airlines and hoping to leave, which has then morphed into ‘mass resignations’.

bananaman2

4th June 2019 10:29

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Originally Posted by GS-Alpha (Post 10486112)

I expect it is a case of Chinese whispers. There are more than a few people looking at other airlines and hoping to leave, which has then morphed into ‘mass resignations’.

Although you say, ‘Chinese whispers’/rumour or whatever... as someone who has always hoped, considered, been intrigued with working for their national carrier... where would a 777 bod (I accept it was mentioned the rumour was tagged to 777) be potentially looking to go? I get the debate on the 320 vs Easy DEC... but for a longhaul guy/gal who’s living at home you take the rough with the smooth, generally living with the niggles that every company has (there is no perfect company). Not much else going on longhaul in the UK at the moment or is there - Virgin, TUI? Commuting contract overseas? or are these folks young, super junior and being screwed by the bidding system and looking to earn a few bucks wherever they can get it?

Joe le Taxi

4th June 2019 11:05

I hear it can reach 6 trips per month on the 777. That's more than a niggle - I used to just about cope with four, 5 would wipe me out, but six!!! That's really really unhealthy, to the extent I would personally quit flying if I couldn't find something else less damaging.

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