Makes no difference to you Kendrick, it only affects the ex BMI captains and all of them are senior to you wherever they end up anyway. This thread is historically known for thread drift (guilty in that respect myself) so don’t worry too much about it.

Personally I think JSS will be better for Short Haul (virtually no one wants a mixture of daytips and tours which is all 90% of the Triplines are, although it remains to be seen how effectively you can build a roster consisting of either day trips or tours and a lot will depend on seniority/knowing the correct JSS tweaks). I suspect for Long Haul it will be a !!!!show compared to Bidline, but who knows?

Bidline: essentially the company publish the Trip Lines (each individual line is a roster) 6 weeks or so in advance of the month in question. The pilot workforce then bids for these lines of work in seniority order. So in theory the most senior pilot in the seat in question is effectively writing his own roster as he knows exactly what trips he will be doing and also the days off. Pilots will bid for lines based on weekends off or destinations or, in the case of the most senior, both of these variables hence the notion of writing your own roster. There are only so many trip lines, those who don’t have the required seniority for any of their choices of lines will have their roster written for them by the company with the reconstituted trips of what is left over (blind line).

JSS: No real control whatsoever. You’re just expressing preferences for days off or particular types of trips/destinations but there is no guarantee that you will get any of what you want. It is not anywhere near as transparent as bidline. Still very seniority driven but there will also be inhibitors in place to stop the most senior just going to Cape Town (or insert your own desirable destination) four times a month. There are very real fears that inserting all of these inhibitors will end up in the programme being corrupted away from its original design, see the case of Carmen down in Gatwick where, in an attempt to please everybody, they have ended up with a programme that pleases nobody. That’s why Wiggy and others (including myself) have just described it as posh blindlines as even the most senior will have absolutely no idea what their roster will contain until the day of publication.

So whats new in that, you may perfectly reasonably ask if you’re coming from another airline. Trouble is it’s a severely retrograde step in being able to do what you want when you want and have control over the whole process, something that has been a unique selling point of BA for many years but is about to be a thing of the past.

Without a reference, eg, “compared to Ryanair, what are the benefits,” the question is meaningless.

If if you have no interest in long haul, think you’ll do a lot of upper class travel, don’t want to wear the stupid hat and you have other options, hop out of the pool, son, here’s your towel. Seriously, you’ll be miserable here.

As for the “ doesn’t cut it for me” comment... I’m pretty sure our community will be alright without you.

Good luck with with your career, sir.

Cheers

Buter

Can never understand why you would go through the considerable time and effort of applying if you need someone else to convince you. Not to mention the waste of a interview/sim slot for someone who actually is interested in joining.

They had 1000 applicants in a 2 week recruiting window so they can probably struggle on without you.

Morning all, Firstly may I commend RexB’s descriptions of both Bidline and JSS to the house....

Paddington..

Unless you have a burning desire to do shorthaul out of London I can’t see why BA would be of interest, though TBF I don’t live the BA shorthaul dream...

As for travelling in Premium cabins.... I’m not sure how the recruiters / advertising sells that benefit but you have a very limited number of those particular tickets and despite everything there are no guarantees about getting on a flight and where you will end up seated (and it can get really difficult if you are travelling as a family ).

Many a staff traveller with First or Club entitlement has ended up on a jumpseat......

Hello everyone, thanks for all of those who post interesting info for the ones of us still in the application process. I’ve been waiting for. sim dates for a month already after receiving a mail telling me I had passed day 2. Anyone in the same condition. Anyone knows if it’s going to be 767 or 747. New to the forum so cannot receive any PM it seems. Any info would be very appreciated. Thanks.

Still Carmen AFAIK.

Hello, may I ask if people going through the interview stage received technical questions or was it just competency based questioning? Thank you in advance��

Hi Paddington,

Personally if you have no interest in LH why join what is predominately a LH airline. The grief of doing multiple sectors out of Heathrow on a day in day out basis for a a 40+ year career doesn’t make sense. If you want to be home every night you would be much better off working for an airline outside London where the cost of housing is more reasonable, the commute quicker, time to command generally quicker with associated better pay.

However, the reasons I enjoy LH is the opportunities to visit places that I would never visit on holiday. To take my son with me to Chile to see the penguins in the Tiera Del Fuego or my family to Tokyo after sector swapping to turn a 4 day trip into a 6 day trip. To go whale watching on a 4 day San Francisco trip or visit the Aztec temples in Mexico.

On LH you only need to commute 4 or 5 times a month with the same number of departures and arrivals from Heathrow. Like all jobs there are downsides and frustrations as well, but as an individual you need to work out what your priorities are and then find a job where you will get the greatest percentage satisfaction to live your life.

Regards