GS Alpha. No that's not what is being suggested. Most of the BMI numbers are either Captains or have moved to LH. Some still remain as P2 SH but very few. Of the guys after the BMI lot a good number are DEP onto LH. Work on 5 years for a move and you probably not going to be to disappointed.

Hold pool guys, once I have info on the internal bids for part time and how that affects things I'll put some info up. Until then though it did say A320 LHR/LGW - recruitment, and that's before any part time bids have been factored in. 2017 was always going to be a quieter year for recruitment so I would not worry at this time. Hope that helps

Thanks bex88 always nice to have some reassurance.

Thanks from me too Bex.

Would be a shame for SH recruitment to open again, and hoover up more type rated guys over those of us swimming that are happy to go SH even though we're non type rated. If that happens I guess that's just how it goes though.

I'll keep treading :)

I've flown with a Capt who talked to someone from recruitment... (I know..)

As far as he/she know everyone in the current holdpool will be offered a startdate at some point (albeit it might take some time).

Hopefully that puts your minds at ease a little

Hi nrn

Thanks very much any news that is positive is always welcome!

BA have plenty of form on this I'm afraid.

Back in October 2011 I was interviewed, assessed and placed in a holding pool. Despite constant strong rumours about a complete freeze on recruitment, it wasn't until October 2012 that swimmers were informed that the pool was being closed.

I recall the same stories in 2008 or around that time. With Brexit and the general cyclical nature of the industry, I wouldn't be surprised if BA's growth ceases.

You cannot blame the recruitment team for the lack of information or clarity. I'm sure they're as frustrated as you are.

I think that's a fair comment MH152,

I've lost count of the number of DEP cycles I've seen since the late 80's. I think up until Spring it was all very rosy but then a combination of matters political and otherwise have put a break on things.

That said fingers crossed that anyone currently in the hold pool will get fished out before too long.

The negativity is overblown IMHO (although this is pprune of course!). Recruitment has hardly ground to a halt, this upcoming year was always planned as a lull comparatively speaking because BA are only taking delivery of a single 787 in 2017. Granted this "lull" was still projected to be 170 people and that has halved to potentially 80 people by all accounts but remember, if you forget the last two years that's still a fair chunk. People are getting offers as I speak, I know a couple of them.

Thanks for the recent posts Rex, although I have to say a couple things. Firstly I don't think people recently are blaming the recruitment team for anything. I hope I haven't given that impression. Regarding being 'negative' this is only mildly the case due to an email all us swimmers got recently. Stating as you say the requirement for 2017 has been halved. It's understandable why we might be concerned by this, especially if you consider the hold pool time has been extended because of the same reason.

People might be getting offers, but I bet you they're all 320 rated - a point we've been trying to make.

LH down to 3500 on 777. Little movement on other fleets. Large number of bids below 3500 for LH but perhaps only 40 or so had valid bids. SH commands back at about 2000 so quick commands have gone. It does not look like there were lots of part time requests and the ones there were have not been granted.

Gloomy? No 2017 was always going to be slower. Perhaps no DEP LH but previously A320 was for recruitment and there does not seem to be any change to that. Last years bid results are exceptional not the norm.

That's my personal assessment not an official one but I hope it helps.

Thank you bex88

In your opinion when do u think they can confirm the requirement for LH recruitment in 2018?

Almost certainly, about a week before it's offered. (IF it's offered in 2017?) To be reviewed on a weekly basis!

Those that accept SH in the meantime, will always, always, always, ALWAYS be senior to people who'd rather wait.

Oh, did I say, in BA seniority is everything?

I'm willing to accept LH or SH just concerned my pool will expire before I get the chance!

I see from reading elsewhere there is also bad'ish news that the company seems to be a reluctant ( to say the least) to allow people to migrate onto the 72% or 58% Aspirational part Time contracts in the 2017 training year.

If that holds true it looks that avenue for creating vacancies has been closed off, at least for now.

Ea300, I read somewhere BA has increased hold pool time to 18 months (and maybe more). Maybe wiggy can clarify.

Superpilot correct. The increased hold pool time has been communicated to the pilots in the hold pool. 18 months with the clock starting at the date you had your simulator assessment. The internal PRIAM results have been published last week with not a lot of internal movement planned for next year, but still a requirement for NEP's.

It is correct that the holdpool has been extended to 18 months as I am in that position. And I believe I'm near to the top. As a non 320 rated pilot my hopes rely on a course being offered early 2018. And of course being offered a SH position if it happened sooner.

To sink in the pool would be absolutely gutting at this stage.

Apparently now an excess of A380 F/Os, after recruiting and training them this year!
8 perhaps to be posted to other fleets. Bit of a waste of money/planning??

Plans change. A320 Commands for a few of the A380 P2's didn't materialise as expected.

Yep so it is. I was meant to be on the last course this year from 777 to 380 but cancelled one week before course start due to situation above. No movement off the 380 and now 8 in surplus.
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