PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   Terms and Endearment (https://www.pprune.org/terms-endearment-38/)
-   -   Volotea (https://www.pprune.org/terms-endearment/527925-volotea.html)

Mintraman 27th October 2015 20:37

You just disregard the red nav light and you go!! Captains are not supposed to be monkeys (unless they are payed peanuts and treated like in a zoo). Use your brain, of course a nav light is a nogo item but if you lose it after take off you will not turn back and do an emergency landing. That's why captains are paid for, be safe and help ops. That's what a good captain would do. Now if there is a flight controls or instruments or powerplant issue, a nogo item has to be taken seriously into consideration.

marcoBCN 27th October 2015 20:58

A nogo item is a nogo item, stop. MELs are used on ground, not inflight, in that case you will use your QRH, abnormal procedures and so on.

rogerg 27th October 2015 21:03


What would you do? Acting against the MEL?
I think the bright light would make my eyes a bit watery

Mintraman 27th October 2015 21:16

Marcobcn, be very careful with your interviews.;)
A nogo is a nogo, a rest is a rest, a day off is a day off, they might answer you a pfo letter is a pfo letter.

Remember that a "very good" SOPman crashed a MD11 in Halifax a few years ago because he was thinking that a checklist is a checklist. Rip.

Bobermo 28th October 2015 09:42

Hahahaha, I suggest Mintraman to be very careful with your interviews. Stating that you will deliberately go against the MEL would put you on a very slippery slope..

Mintraman 28th October 2015 10:55

ah ah ah bobermon, thanks for your advices :)
Donīt worry, you will not be unsafe in a controlled airspace between AJA and NTE at 01:00 LT with a missing red nav light. You'd be surprised to see how many flights every day that are dispatched with "omitted" defects in the techlog. ;)


Look at happy passengers :E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhkhsujU62s


(I used to be an engineer for a big belgium airline...)

REMAX11 28th October 2015 11:06

From the prospect I have received, it look lokes around 5000€ a month net...

limahotel 29th October 2015 06:22

Non-rated FO
 
Does anyone have any information regarding T&C for non-rated SFO? What are the chances of getting VCE base and command upgrade? Thanks in advance.

manflexsrsrwy 29th October 2015 07:25

I would say pretty slim, considering you want a) a type rating and b) a command, unless you fart rainbows and poop gold....probably not very likely
easyJet have a VCE base

drag king 29th October 2015 10:30


easyJet have a VCE base
Piece of cake then! :}

Has anyone heard anything since applying?

DK :confused:

fade to grey 29th October 2015 11:30

Mintraman,
I'd suggest that with your fast and loose attitude to a MEL , you go back to being an engineer.......oh wait....

We all know a broken nav light won't kill you, but it'll make you harder to see and is therefore not allowed.

Mintraman 29th October 2015 11:55

Fade to grey, please keep your crap suggestions for you and put them in your :mad:. If you donīt put "red nav light U/S" in the tech log for the very last sector then you just donīt need to think about the MEL. I guess the captain that grounded the flight for that was a bit pissed off with the management ;)
From experience I can only tell you it is so, so easy to write something in the techlog and ground an aircraft away from base with no available qualified engineers. All captains know that they have this power available to use against crap management.

drag king 29th October 2015 12:03


I'd suggest that with your fast and loose attitude to a MEL , you go back to being an engineer.......oh wait....
Just do not feed the troll. His "wisdom" is all over the place and it makes little sense. If he/she really has engineer's qualifications, well I would not trust someone with this attitude to fix my skateboard, let alone sort an AOG out...

DK :hmm:

cactusbusdrvr 30th October 2015 04:42

If your operation is so shoddy that you do not have contract maintenance at an out station that is capable of changing a lightbulb then you deserve to suffer a cancellation.

Pilot I 11th November 2015 22:30

New T&Cs Volotea.
 
Anybody on this thread with knowledge re. the new T&C at Volotea. When has this taken force? How many block hours a months, salary(compensation pr block hour) and schedule? Apparently they have low production in winter season. I appreciate any comments.


thnx P.

zondaracer 14th November 2015 06:18

Does the 717 not have 2 red nav lights so that one can be deferred if one is still serviceable?

Commuter0815 17th November 2015 09:26

@Pilot I

I applied for that position because the initial info from the recruiter was somehow incorrect and stated much better conditions as they are actually.

But I got an invitation for interview within the same afternoon of sending in my paperwork(9000 hrs total, 6000 in command, mainly airline, medium and heavy jets).

Unfortunately they sent me as well the exact(as offered) T's and C's of Volotea management and they are actually not very good.

E.g. all offered salaries are before tax, after checking italian or spanish tax calculators I was "back on earth" with my expectations.

As well they offer you a 8month contract, 4 months are either free of work(and money :}), or a few flights or some part time flying with still crappy money for that period.

Then they write that you may sign a full time contract for year 2 - but that is just partly true as it depends on the company to whom they offer this full time contract. No guarantee really to get full time(and full money) for year 2 onwards.
As a new joiner you start on the B717(which is not a bad aircraft but nearly nobody operates it anymore, so a kind of useless rating regarding job security), then realisiticly you can expect to be on an Airbus by 2020(that's the time they want an all Airbus fleet).

Honestly, to many "ifs" for me and far to less money for that vague promises. I withdrew my application 3 days later...

If nobody has the correct T's and C's I have to look them up in my inbox and post them, let me know.

But IF you have a job with a more or less decent pay and a more or less acceptable roster stay away I would suggest.

Yakigirl 29th November 2015 19:43

Mintraman,
Are you a captain?

manflexsrsrwy 11th December 2015 07:41

Volotea
 
Are Volotea still going ahead with the launch of the Airbus in the new year ? Has anyone who applied been contacted ?

space-shuttle-driver 30th December 2015 10:26

I applied via Sigma Aviation Services on 15th of DEC 15, and have no news yet.


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:52.


Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.