You just disregard the red nav light and you go!! Captains are not supposed to be monkeys (unless they are payed peanuts and treated like in a zoo). Use your brain, of course a nav light is a nogo item but if you lose it after take off you will not turn back and do an emergency landing. That's why captains are paid for, be safe and help ops. That's what a good captain would do. Now if there is a flight controls or instruments or powerplant issue, a nogo item has to be taken seriously into consideration.

A nogo item is a nogo item, stop. MELs are used on ground, not inflight, in that case you will use your QRH, abnormal procedures and so on.

I think the bright light would make my eyes a bit watery

Marcobcn, be very careful with your interviews.;)
A nogo is a nogo, a rest is a rest, a day off is a day off, they might answer you a pfo letter is a pfo letter.

Remember that a "very good" SOPman crashed a MD11 in Halifax a few years ago because he was thinking that a checklist is a checklist. Rip.

Hahahaha, I suggest Mintraman to be very careful with your interviews. Stating that you will deliberately go against the MEL would put you on a very slippery slope..

ah ah ah bobermon, thanks for your advices :)
Don´t worry, you will not be unsafe in a controlled airspace between AJA and NTE at 01:00 LT with a missing red nav light. You'd be surprised to see how many flights every day that are dispatched with "omitted" defects in the techlog. ;)


Look at happy passengers :E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhkhsujU62s


(I used to be an engineer for a big belgium airline...)

From the prospect I have received, it look lokes around 5000€ a month net...

Non-rated FO
 

Does anyone have any information regarding T&C for non-rated SFO? What are the chances of getting VCE base and command upgrade? Thanks in advance.

I would say pretty slim, considering you want a) a type rating and b) a command, unless you fart rainbows and poop gold....probably not very likely
easyJet have a VCE base

Piece of cake then! :}

Has anyone heard anything since applying?

DK :confused:

Mintraman,
I'd suggest that with your fast and loose attitude to a MEL , you go back to being an engineer.......oh wait....

We all know a broken nav light won't kill you, but it'll make you harder to see and is therefore not allowed.

Fade to grey, please keep your crap suggestions for you and put them in your :mad:. If you don´t put "red nav light U/S" in the tech log for the very last sector then you just don´t need to think about the MEL. I guess the captain that grounded the flight for that was a bit pissed off with the management ;)
From experience I can only tell you it is so, so easy to write something in the techlog and ground an aircraft away from base with no available qualified engineers. All captains know that they have this power available to use against crap management.

Just do not feed the troll. His "wisdom" is all over the place and it makes little sense. If he/she really has engineer's qualifications, well I would not trust someone with this attitude to fix my skateboard, let alone sort an AOG out...

DK :hmm:

If your operation is so shoddy that you do not have contract maintenance at an out station that is capable of changing a lightbulb then you deserve to suffer a cancellation.

New T&Cs Volotea.
 

Anybody on this thread with knowledge re. the new T&C at Volotea. When has this taken force? How many block hours a months, salary(compensation pr block hour) and schedule? Apparently they have low production in winter season. I appreciate any comments.


thnx P.

Does the 717 not have 2 red nav lights so that one can be deferred if one is still serviceable?

@Pilot I

I applied for that position because the initial info from the recruiter was somehow incorrect and stated much better conditions as they are actually.

But I got an invitation for interview within the same afternoon of sending in my paperwork(9000 hrs total, 6000 in command, mainly airline, medium and heavy jets).

Unfortunately they sent me as well the exact(as offered) T's and C's of Volotea management and they are actually not very good.

E.g. all offered salaries are before tax, after checking italian or spanish tax calculators I was "back on earth" with my expectations.

As well they offer you a 8month contract, 4 months are either free of work(and money :}), or a few flights or some part time flying with still crappy money for that period.

Then they write that you may sign a full time contract for year 2 - but that is just partly true as it depends on the company to whom they offer this full time contract. No guarantee really to get full time(and full money) for year 2 onwards.
As a new joiner you start on the B717(which is not a bad aircraft but nearly nobody operates it anymore, so a kind of useless rating regarding job security), then realisiticly you can expect to be on an Airbus by 2020(that's the time they want an all Airbus fleet).

Honestly, to many "ifs" for me and far to less money for that vague promises. I withdrew my application 3 days later...

If nobody has the correct T's and C's I have to look them up in my inbox and post them, let me know.

But IF you have a job with a more or less decent pay and a more or less acceptable roster stay away I would suggest.

Mintraman,
Are you a captain?

Volotea
 

Are Volotea still going ahead with the launch of the Airbus in the new year ? Has anyone who applied been contacted ?

I applied via Sigma Aviation Services on 15th of DEC 15, and have no news yet.

Lots of Air France pilots call it VOLOCACA.

Volotea
 

Dear all,

Recently saw an advert for A319 FOs with potential for upgrade in 2 - 6 months and was wondering if anyone had any insights into Volotea..?

How is it to work there, atmosphere etc etc?
What's the roster like?
How is the pay for FO and CPT?
What bases can you expect on the 'bus?
Is the time to upgrade realistic and what is the process there?
Any insights into the selection process for rated senior FO..?

Thank you very much for any info at all.

Volotea
 

Love to hear from anybody in Volotea about their experience with the company

For which position?
 

Depending of what you looking for if you have already experience and if shoch to enter as FO, consider to fly 80hrs average during the summer peak season about 4months and decrease a lot to the rest of the year,
the main problem of the company is the salary very low, for 80hrs expect average 3000€ net or bit more then 40hrs you divided by 2,
Many pilots are leaving due to that,
Roster so so, they try to manage to make you by block during the summer and follow 5/4 or 4/3, low season unfortunatly you fly less with poorer Roster.
If you wish to log jet hours can be an option but as long as the base it's not where you come from Volotea for a long period can painful,
Last thing fot being all negative about the company...we have very good atmosphere between colleagues it's one of the point they try to manage in order to make accepting pilots the conditions...

What can you tell me about the fast track to Captain?
If the pilot have already experience they upgrade the guy or this is just promise?

Any Volotea captain who could do a summary of the condition as slipper ?

I captain in Uk, but would like to go back to France so I might be interested for Volotea as DEC.

Thanks

just write their recruitment team and ask that reasonable question. They will then let you know;

"..I can also tell you that for a CP in France, that flies 90 hours in high season, the approximate monthly salary is 10.000 euros.."

This was the pay conditions disclosed by email in October 2017. This is what the Chief Pilot pulls in during high season, and can assure you, that is ALL INCLUSIVE (per diem, sector pay etc.).

Good luck with it. Again - stepping stone, and get out asap, sure, why not.

Hi guys, any updates on Volotea ? How is the company doing ? Any increase in T&C ? Environment ?

Dear All,

As in over the Aegean thread i am looking for the following info, but once again, it looks like it is one of the industry's best kept secrets which can't be extracted from the recruiters...

So, t&c-s: salary/taxation, roster/vacation/crew travel mostly.

Thanks a million!

Thanks for the info. However I am looking for Cpt t&c-s, etc.

What are the news? Have they made any redundancies or trying to sail it out with unpaid or other measures? I believe the first contract they offer is only temporary in any case. My best wishes and good health to all affected.

How is Volotea going to survive this crisis?

Volotea
 

Any info on Volotea this summer? I see the flight schedule is pretty busy now. Have any new part timers been employed?

Heard some are back to work, but I guess they are full time contracts back from furlough.
Lots of pre-assessed pilots from end of last year still waiting to get in, and it looks like it will take some time.

Volotea
 

Any hiring already?, Anyone contacted ? , they seem to be adding many airbus for the season.

Plenty of interviews happening these days in bcn.
Preference given to rated pilots with experience on type, orherwise the line training would take forever with the low amount of sectors expected in april/may.

Nope, not a word besides an email few weeks back requiring to fill in the application again but this time as an Microsoft online questionaire.

No news here too. So some have interviews in BCN?

Yep, there were interviews yesterday for sure, and more in the next days.

Thanks dirk, captains and FOs?