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Originally Posted by The Mixmaster (Post 9775573)

EasyJet the epitome of corporate greed amongst airlines.

If I may be so bold that is a pointless comment as, almost by definition, all companies are greedy. For sure, once they are stock-market listed it's in their DNA. It has to be or the company will not survive.

First of all there have been quite a few experienced pilots employed at easyjet UK bases, both type rated and non type rated, with similar if not more experience than you quoted earlier. Remember experience is not the complete package. Just as BA likes to employ a certain type of candidate so does EZ. All airlines like to employ persons who will most fit in with their company culture. This might be where there is the disconnect is. Funny thing is that there has been quite a number of very experienced pilots who have been turned down by BA because they don't fit in with speed bird's culture, plus those who resign because they don't enjoy it there.
Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't most of the BA pilot body products of their own cadet scheme?

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Originally Posted by Enzo999 (Post 9774805)

With the greatest amount of respect I don't think there are many aspects of Easy I don't understand. My original point was they obviously don't value experience amoughst their FOs and nothing that has been said on here has made me change my views on that. You can give the party line all day long about cadets being full of "raw talent", follow SOPs perfectly and doing exactly as they are told Blah Blah Blah, but personally I think they are preferred because of the 9 million in revenue they will bring this year and the years of reduced pay untill they either leave to BA or make command (then the whole process starts again).

Anyway luckily for me BA did see some value in me (despit my lack of ability and talent compaired to a Cadet) so I have a good job, but there are lots who don't that will yet again miss out on an opportunity at Easy.

Anyway this could go around in circles for ever, and for the record I am not saying EasyJet are a bad place to work or a bad company, simply that they value profit more than the experience levels of FOs and maybe they are correct to (but to admit that opens up a huge can of worms for us all)!

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Our type-rated pilots who come from other airlines can be very good, but that is not always the case. It is particularly tricky if someone comes with their own ideas of how they want to do things - they quickly find that easyJet is a big follower of SOPs and unashamedly expects its pilots to embrace them.

So how have those coming from the likes of Vueling, Livingston, Windjet, Vistajet, etc (to name few but all...) managed to survive your grueling and flawless screening process?

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You can give the party line all day long about cadets being full of "raw talent", follow SOPs perfectly and doing exactly as they are told Blah Blah Blah, but personally I think they are preferred because of the 9 million in revenue they will bring this year and the years of reduced pay untill they either leave to BA or make command (then the whole process starts again).

I think Enzo hit the nail on the head here, despite whatever your great leaders tell you to say. A notorious former DFO from a eJ-like TP operator in the UK once told me that his management was knocking his door every other day to implement this business model...pardon...TALENT-scouting procedure within their operation.

It looks like there is method in the madness...

Kgn6.... Both I and Enzo were offered positions in eJ, Enzo twice. It is what we were offered that was the issue.

Can anyone tell me if the DEC pay for Lisbon has changed at all in the the last few years? Still 95-105 k Euro? Their current add suggests more...approximately 130k Euro.

Also wondering about any specifics about roster, base changes, and general terms.
I am trying to get all the facts before applying for a NTR DEC in Lisbon. If there are any current pilots at EZ who can help me I would really appreciate it.

Cheers

Portugal contract improved quite a lot in the last years.

Could anyone shed some light on the DEFO for Gatwick and Luton? On the ad the SFO position is advertised to be 70000 pounds, should I be expecting to make that amount, or is that an optimistic figure? Also, what are the requirements for a SFO position vs a FO position?

Also, how is command upgrade looking for FOs in these bases? Am not expecting there to be a queue since they are hiring DECs at the same time, but just want to get an estimate as to when I could expect my upgrade after joining.

Thanks guys.

I don't know the details of the UK contract, but for the upgrade, Luton or Gatwick are in general the most likely assigned bases. People from all the other base are sent there for the command. Always in demand of pilots there, and big turnover, with the european guys usually desperate to go back to the continent.

The command process is very long in easyJet, with the first steps starting six month after the employment start, assuming you have the required hours and your performance is up to standard. Some other stages can be completed only after one year and two sim events in the company.
I would not plan on less than 1,5 years from date of joining to the start of the line training of the command course, and that's already pushing it.

Hi ladies and gents,

I don't know if it has been discussed already or not but I didn't find the information.
Does Easyjet pay for your type rating if they hire you as NTR FO?
You already get payed during training, provided with accommodation etc?
Do you have a fixed roster pattern?
Any info is highly appreciated.
Thanks

You pay up front.
You are salaried from day 1 of TR, accommodation is essentially part of the TR cost.
If it is Second Officer contract then it is a flat salary for Year 1 of something around £40k.
No fixed roster until Year 3 of permanent employment.

That's valid for the uk, but every contract is different.

Thanks for the reply.
As I heard from some people the company pays for the TR if you are based in Portugal or Palma. Is that true?
I have a few thousand hours on jet aircraft already.
In this case what salary can I expect? It is not second officer contract I assume.

Does anyone know what the schedules are expected to be in the Lisbon base? i.e. 5 on 4 off etc...

Last numbers I have found .....Lisbon FO 37.000 pounds. In PMI only part-time available 8 months working 4 months off.

@ King6

easyJet has excellent, highly skilled and good attitude FOs from outside who are also becoming excellent Captains. Our easyJet success in the past is built on the experience level from other airlines, which most of us tend to forget.
I agree, that our recruitment should consider a more broad spectrum, as it used to be. On the other hand, you probably would not have a job in BA now without your experience with us.

Hello gents
What is the cpt sallary after tax based in luton or gatwick?

Highly subjective.

Depends what you pay into the pension, share schemes etc and how hard you flew the previous month for sector pay

Thank you very much for the answer.
Is it possible to have an average picture?

Going by PPJN - basic gross is roughly £99k. Conservative estimate for sector pay would be £10k. So let's say £110k gross = £5800 net after U.K. tax and NI.