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Direct Bondi 10th February 2017 12:44

adolf,

I fully respect the right of anyone seeking employment, or change, to ask any question(s) in their endeavors and wish them every success.

I have sought to correct misinformation and provide relevant information, including union representation and to whom, in order that prudent choices may be made by prospective applicants. Remember, some pilots may be leaving a career with an airline to join Norwegian via a 3-year fixed term, temporary “career” with a staffing agency.

My post on the previous page details the way to a more secure working relationship directly with the Norwegian airline for ALL their pilots, rather than the present fragile and insecure relationship via a service provider. This outcome is desired by the Norwegian Pilot Group and stated on their website – link:

http://norwegianpilotgroup.org/

The US based cabin crews have achieved some success with the help of the National Mediation Board. Unfortunately, Norwegian is obstructing their Collective Labor Agreement by refusing roster changes for two representatives to attend negotiation meetings. Spanish pilots are also facing obstruction in their CLA with Orient Ship Management and a non-airline, Norwegian Resource Group. Spanish cabin crews have threatened to strike if they cannot achieve representation directly to the Norwegian airline.

With the inordinate Kjos propaganda of Norwegian’s expansion and reported desperate need for pilots, combined with last summer’s debacle of thousands of passengers left stranded and distraught by cancelled flights due to a lack of pilots, there may never be a better bargaining opportunity.

Perhaps you, or any other person, can provide a reason why Norwegian’s pilots continue to pay union dues for representation to a staffing agency, when the ability to have union representation, a CLA and associated labor rights directly with the Norwegian airline is available.

adolf hucker 10th February 2017 20:29

And still, the lectures keep on coming.

The thread title is 'Norwegian B737 Pilot selection' - just a hint for you.

All the best.

uchy 11th February 2017 13:39

Are u sure that u need at least 2 opc before become captain? A friend of mine became cpt after very few months...

APU_inop 11th February 2017 14:10

Then he/she probably joined as a DEC, the way I've understood it is that you cannot cut the master seniority list.

captplaystation 12th February 2017 19:08

"come and be part of history " Excuse me ? ? :yuk:

Yeah, it must be pretty historic to be recruited by one bottom feeder and then contracted to another.

OSM "it's all about the people" , but, it seems , not attracting/recruiting them . . . . how many parasites do you want making a buck on your back ? ?



NTR Captain for the new B737MAX | Norwegian | USA

Come and be part of history as one of the first Captains to fly this brand new aircraft.

Our client needs little introduction as a recognised global brand. We are delighted to be working on behalf of OSM Aviation to recruit NTR Commercial Jet Captains who are wanting to be the first to fly the brand new B737MAX on Norwegian’s new medium long haul network in the USA.

Norwegian is the first airline to take delivery of the MAX and will be the first airline in the world to operate the brand new aircraft type.



Benefits:

3 year renewable contract with OSM Aviation for Norwegian
Competitive salary including per diems and phone allowance
USA Bases PVD or SWF
Excellent benefits package
Requirements:

Valid EASA or FAA License
EASA Class I Medical
US Passport or Green Card
Level 5 English
4000 total hours
2000 PIC hours on commercial jet over 30 tonnes
150 hours PIC hours within last 12 months


Screening:

Interview and SIM screening will be held in MIA. Travel on the airline’s network will be provided.

Why us?

Resource Group Contractair pride ourselves on our attention to detail and care for both candidate and client. We strive to deliver the finest service and ensure your application will be dealt with efficiently. You can expect any application to be responded to within a 24 hour period and if successful you will be represented to our client the same day. We can FastTrack your application to the client.

For more information on how to apply for the position please contact Tamara Springham on +44 (0) 1256 368 500, +44 (0) 788 768 6298 or alternatively, please send your CV to [email protected]

Introduction to Resource Group - Flight Crew Services | Resource Group



We look forward to receiving your application and building a long term professional relationship.

Iver 15th February 2017 02:52

So, to confirm, will the 737 Max in the UK & Ireland be separate from the standard 737-800 operations? Will the pilots currently flying the 800 be able to bid the Max or is that completely separate? I understand the U.S. operation is solely Max.

FlyinGuru 15th February 2017 16:39

Assessment NTR
 

Originally Posted by November7 (Post 9659641)
Hell folks!

I'm attending to the Norwegian 737 FO screening with OSM in Oslo on February 8th, any other pilots attending the same day to share some information and the taxi to the OSM office?

Can you please share some info about the assessment day, please?

22052014 17th February 2017 12:08

I smell a little BS from November7.

He is suppose to be attending assessment twice, once on 29th Nov 2016 and again on 8th Feb 2017, 3 post in total, no answer and not allowing PMs.

Troll, period.

uchy 19th February 2017 08:29

Any advice where to find in internet the correct ' skytest' in order to prepare ?

Helipilot1982 19th February 2017 13:50

EPST so I understand

Direct Bondi 2nd March 2017 20:38

“The airline Norwegian is fined 10,000 euros - nearly 90,000 Norwegian kroner – by a court in Malaga for violating employees right to free trade unionism” - link:

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/norw...svalg/67342877

“It was the union USO [Union Sinidcal Obrerea] who took Norwegian to court for the way the company treated its pilots and flight attendants at the company base in Malaga”– link:

http://www.check-in.dk/norwegian-faa...pansk-retssag/

A “Norwegian family” divided.

uchy 9th March 2017 12:52

How much is approximately the average salary after tax for a first officer?

FlipFlapFlop 9th March 2017 13:18

uchy. Been asked many times on several threads. Hundreds of pages. And the answer....... never been fully answered. Figures in NOR K on PPJN so no reason to doubt them and following was posted by someone on another thread about a month ago.

"Different tax codes will result in different incomes, however, based on Captain salary with per diem and 60 block hrs it works out £5925 after tax and FO again 60 block hours £3957 after tax for non-married UK tax payer."

Remember you won't be working for Norwegian. You work for Rishworth for 3 years and then OSM. You have no employment relationship with the actual employer as they hide behind agencies.

Reveal1 9th March 2017 14:11


How much is approximately the average salary after tax for a first officer?
Average, according what they said during the roadshow , is 4000 Euros net for FO.

JaxofMarlow 9th March 2017 15:04

Why would any company quote net figures ? net is entirely dependant upon personal circumstances and the tax authority being paid. The only sensible figure to quote is gross.

annakm 9th March 2017 15:04


Originally Posted by Reveal1 (Post 9700757)
Average, according what they said during the roadshow , is 4000 Euros net for FO.

I can confirm that figure too.

Reveal1 9th March 2017 15:32

JaxofMarlow
is not a big deal...
doesn't matter where are you based, if Riga or London or Spain....and doesn't matter the local taxes...
at the end your montly income +/- some bucks and after been taxed and converted, still approx. the same...around 4000 Euros..
If someone would tell me 3700 euro or 4000 euro, doesn't make any differences to me to take or leave a job !--...is the reality!
Besides...this is black on white what OMS and Norwegian write or use to tell to the Roadshow.!
Anyway not my "problem" as I have other interest and not to enter in Norwegian ----I just thought to give people asking some more knowledge that i gathered during the roadshow.

uchy 9th March 2017 15:40

Thanks a lot

JaxofMarlow 9th March 2017 17:18

I beg to differ Reveal1.
If I am looking at a new job, gross pay (basic,flight pay etc) is what I need to know. The actual figure the company will pay me. To be told you will get approximately £X after tax and social security payments makes me suspicious. There are numerous things that impact your tax code that the company would not be aware of and should not be quoting net figures for an individual. I personally would not go anywhere if they could not tell me precisely what gross figures will be paid and that is the information that has been requested on here many many times and never properly answered.
This, together with your employment status whilst in the first three years with Rishworth - self employed or not ?

Reveal1 9th March 2017 17:37

Agree with you...
gross figures are clear in Norwegian, once you meet them you're going to know everything.

To be told you will get approximately £X after tax and social security payments makes me suspicious
That is entirely dependant of the flight hours and if you worked/chosed , in your days OFF to fly (if I remeber was smthing like 360 euro for FO)..that the sole reason I specified "approx" in the net figures!

If then we speak about taxes this is another story and we need a full day to extrapolate.
Of course in some country you pay more like Italy, and other you pay less like Riga ...but ....if I remember well the law is clear, i will make you the point:
doesn't matter if you pay for example the taxes in Riga and maybe you paying 25% less because then if you are Uk residente, once you come back to UK, you need to pay the difference in your country, if in your country the tax is more, as it is for sure...but many people seems to care less about this matter!


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