Windypops if you are looking for the easiest way into mainline BA then apply direct, as Cityflyer is not the golden ticket to LHR .

BA as an unspoken rule do not generally poach from BACF. It is probably the hardest way to get in to Mainline. They have interviewed in the past, but number of people actually geeting a job is VERY LOW! It is an external application with NO special treatment.

RJ.

BACF are now advertising for FOs again (as 'ongoing recruitment'). Previous applicants remain in the system.

However, according to the supporting job description, it is now essential to hold a total flight time of 1000hrs, with multi-crew and multi engine experience (which rules me out!). A current E170 rating is desirable.

Exactly !!! ba amd cityflyer on a flightdeck perspective are 2 completey airlines !!

On a very rough basis how much would an FO earn at cityflyer? And what are the requirements/timescales to upgrade?

In the region of a very miserable £2000 net a month! Not much when based in London city!

My goodness, it makes Flybe's salary look quite attractive.
:hmm::hmm:

And a Jet captain at Flybe still earns more than us at BACF.
Oh and in our latest pay talks the powers at the Towers say we are a Regional Airline! Despite saying a few months ago that we are a London Airline.
So, we fly from London to several Capital EU cities, but that is Regional flying........as long as they keep the costs down to ensure that they get the bonus........:rolleyes:

I've made various comments on this thread. I stand by what I said previously, it's a great 'start' to the industry. No training costs come out of the cadets pockets as well as uniforms, id's and everything else you'd expect. Flying nice aircraft (although not sure how great the EMB170 looks on a CV as your only rating). I went there for interview practice, and even though they said no to me (obviously need more practice!), it simply saved me from saying no to them. Everything is great, but the money if I'm honest is insulting. I don't mind paying for lunch, uniforms, id's and everything else I shouldn't have to pay for- when I'm paid nearly 3 times their pay.

VJW

I should leg it over the water to Dublin then, Mr O'Leary would appear to meet all your requirements.

Flatspin Fumble : You obviously didn't read my post properly. I said, "I don't (not wouldn't) mind paying for lunch, uniforms, id's and everything else I shouldn't (not wouldn't) have to pay for- when I'm paid nearly 3 times their pay.

Perhaps my initial statement wasn't clear enough :ok:

vjw,

I'm pleased you got the practice you wanted at interviewing. I also note you think the pay is low.
Do you know what our management say when we try to negotiate a better deal? " look at how many people apply to us, so it can't be bad"

Thanks for not applying again.

Blaming VJW practice application for your poor pay at cityflier is just pointless. He's right RYR earn 2-3times what you lot do. It's even less than Flybe for god sake.

I have applied to jobs which I'd never even consider taking just for practice, its just common sense.

You're management must be very naive. Having been to BACF's interview, I can confirm it is nearly identical to BA main, so perhaps thats a reason lots of people apply. They must be extremely naive to think that £2000 odd a month for a FO is good for someone living within commutable distance from London City airport. I'm sure entry level office staff in London probably make close to that.

i don't think our management is naive in the slightest. it's us.

Just wondering if anyone knows whether its possible to update your previous CV / application ?

Mine's still in the system and hopefully will get looked at again for this round, but I'd like to be able to update it to reflect the flying I've done since October.

Thanks

Hey. Did you get a thanks but no thanks email from BACF? If so, maybe someone in BACF will get back to you as to whether you need to wait a year to reapply. If not, i don't see why you simply can't update it. Just log back in no?

I did get a 'thanks, but no thanks', but I thought based on a previous post they may reconsider my application.

I can see my previous completed application after logging in, but there doesn't seem to be any way of updating it.

I remember my interview with BA CONNECT. There was a guy called Carl Phelan ( I think that was his name ) and an american/canadian bird called Renee! He spent the whole time staring at her rack and trying to act like the top man! I was thinking to myself " you are such a w**ker!". A job is a job if nothing else is going!!

That'll be Carl Phelan then!

Thanks for reminding me of Renee (not to be confused with the other Renee of Dash 8 fame), you've brightened a rainy afternoon.....

@ nildesperandum

I have the same problem. I applied in oct but was no able to attend the selection because i was on the road. So i contacted them to say this. Shortly afterwards i got an email ' thx but no tx.....'. I see that my application is still in there and can not update it. I think you have to withdraw it and then apply again.

Grtz

Rosco328 :D

I'll say no more or pass no comments.

" I think you have to withdraw it and then apply again"
we still talking pilot applications ?

Yes i do.
I don't see any other way to update your cv.
I send them an email about this issue, but no comment so far.
Grtz

marlowe lol - was wasted on brie, flew straight over his head! :ok:

sim assessment at BA Cityflyer
 

After successfully passing the assessment day in Manchester, I am invited to the sim check at Cranebank !
If anyone could provide some informations about this assessment, it would be greatly appreciated !

Thanks.
:ok:

I'm told there is a substantial link for this but like you, i'm struggling to find it. So much to trawl through.

I'm willing to accept the obligatory abuse from a bitter wannabe/former employee for a quick link to the correct place.;)

Sim at cranbank should be in a B737. The usual intro with general handling.... followed by the detail. Which might vary dependant upon experience level. You will be sent a briefing pack with speeds to fly and power settings. Test 1... learn those by heart!!!!!!!:ugh:

I'd prepare for the basic general handling, steep turns, Climbs and descents at constant speeds etc.... you might try an exercise twice or more.. it's not because you messed it up the first time, it's to see if you improve ie. LEARN! Then end with a HOLD and and ILS. If you have exp maybe an EFATO, SE ILS.

All very standard easy stuff.

Greeting BACF'ers.....:eek:

Why you wish to join such a company is beyond me, but Hey Ho..

Brilliant, thanks for that.

I think Sky&ocean and myself can probably sight 50 situations we've been in with Mickey Mouse Airlines throughout the world which make this opportunity a welcome one.

At best, he got to fly in his flip flops. At worst........ well those stories are for the longer flights.:zzz:

Emb190.:eek:

Nice to see you back. Hope all is well.

RJ.

Interesting
 

........................

Symptomatic of a company of poor pay, poor rosters, low morale, and
little respect for it's employees. :ugh:

Regional type airlines are good for only two things, hours and possibility of a quick command but only if you time things well.

In a stagnant market you are stuck with rubbish money, almost certainly away from home and no prospects. Even when things pick up the lightweight ratings preclude you from a descent job!

I never thought I'd say this but PTF schemes seem to offer more to the budding airline pilot now :(

D and f :8

cityflyer
 

Anybody invited to a selection day/interview since May?