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DutchBird-757 21st January 2011 20:46

Check the specific Cityflyer thread in the routes section for more info. Trips could be any combination to be honest. A single day with two sectors or a 6 day on trip. Anything is possible. They do try not to roster single days off, unless you go above the minimum of 9 days off a month. If you are thinking of commuting, you are a brave man/woman. We've got folk who do it and it's a pain. Both financially and socially.

forcandle 31st January 2011 16:16

I cannot seem to find any information regarding bases for flight crews - their website says cabin crew based in Edinburgh, but no mention of flight crew.

Can anyone confirm that they do have flight crew based there also?

_ShIfTy_ 31st January 2011 17:15

Yes, Cityflyer have Flight crews based at EDI

Shifty

gilbertmchris 31st January 2011 17:17

London City is the only base they are recruiting for flight crew, no option of Edinburgh. Contract states report within 60 minutes to LCY airport...

VJW 31st January 2011 20:00

Does anyone have an interview with them this week?

Give me a PM- in on Thur myself!

MaxReheat 1st February 2011 13:41

With the exception of VJW, it would seem, has anyone who applied during the Xmas period heard anything at all from them apart from the acknowledgement email?

RJ100 2nd February 2011 14:52

The latest Rumours being thrown around the EDI crewroom:

Sounds as though more people will be required a few months from now.
Another 3 captains are rumoured to have job offers, including one EDI based trainer rumoured to be with another EMB operator. One more FO is checking out the Desert very soon with and a few more with job offers in the pipeline.

RJ.:ok:

DutchBird-757 2nd February 2011 19:35

8 guys in training now. Recruiting for March course and one more course expected in April. Looking for 20/22 guys on top of these 8. There's something going on for 2011...

justanotherstat 3rd February 2011 09:20

Believe there is a lot of charter work for holiday companies all over the country during summer months.

The course dates quoted don't exactly allow for the standard three month notice period, which could be a problem for some people. A colleague was offered a job (mid January) on the March course.

YYZ_Instructor 7th February 2011 15:07

Any news from anyone on Friday?

VJW 7th February 2011 16:02

Had mine on Thur and still waiting for a reply.

I did tell them that I can't make the sim this week as I'm working, to which they said if I pass day 1, I'll have to wait until the next sim dates, so presuming I'll be last to be contacted.

VJW

forcandle 7th February 2011 16:25

I'm after a big favour - I have the sim profile but could anyone PM me the airfields that they flew the profile at and any details as to extra content....:)

Kickingkatie 8th February 2011 10:50

Ditto here regarding the sim check please.

YYZ_Instructor 12th February 2011 03:43

Kickingkatie and forcandle,
Did you attend the sim? If you have can u forward the
airports used, the profile and any useful information please?

Thanks,

YYZ

YYZ_Instructor 24th March 2011 06:13

Anymore sim info from those who have attended?

sky&ocean 14th May 2011 04:26

BA Cityflyer assessment day / sim
 
Hi,

Invited to the assessment day, I have an idea what to expect for that.

But coming from the other side of the planet for that day, can anyone tell me if the sim check happens the next day or if you would be called again for the sim?
I obviously cannot travel back and forth from the Indian Ocean (at my own expense by the way) just for an hour sim ride ??

Any infos about the sim check as well would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks...:ok:

towser 15th May 2011 07:28

If you pass the assessment day then you will be called back at a later day for the sim i'm afraid.

YYZ_Instructor 15th May 2011 23:50

And by the way its for the holding pool....12 months in it and no job you have to do it all over again...

I just think you would like to know that before you travel all that way! :ugh:

VJW 16th May 2011 00:11

My bitter opinion; unless you're a FTE cadet with 200 hrs, don't bother going to the interview!

towser 16th May 2011 07:39

VJW. I can assure you that not everyone who got accepted last time around was an FTE 200hr guy. There were several who were experienced (2000-2500hrs) who are now on line.

Burger81 16th May 2011 07:58

Min hours
 

My bitter opinion; unless you're a FTE cadet with 200 hrs, don't bother going to the interview!
It states on the job description and requirements that 1000hrs min is required? :confused:
Is there any guys fresh out of training being invited for interview eben with these minimums stated?

Thanks

burger81

VJW 16th May 2011 09:25

towser i'm sure you are right- (you probably interviewed me) and that some guys with 2000 hrs may have got in. However, if you're telling me it is not a coincidence that out of what must have been hundreds maybe few thousand applications, which didn't even include the FTE guys (as the FTE guys didn't apply they were recommended by FTE- oh and the FTE guys didn't even need to do a sim as part of their interview, if they passed day one, they were in!) that if 8 jobs were going, and 4 or 5 guys from FTE managed to get through, I simply don't believe there wasn't a hidden agenda.

The fact they were able to provide BACF interviewers (who had pretty much the same experience as myself) with better examples of CRM and other various experiences, purely based on their single pilot CPL/IR training, then someone in my position with 2000 + hrs multi pilot 737 experience proves to me that they had an agenda to hire a certain amount of cadets. I don't think there is anything wrong with this at all, in fact it's admirable, just don't tell me it isn't true. I wouldn't believe you anyway.

For me it was a total waste of time to have turned up. I know for a fact 4 guys from FTE last round got in, and I believe there were 8 jobs going - 2 of which were for Captains.

In all honesty I went for the interview practice, with the money they offer, I couldn't afford to live near london city even if I was currently debt free. Even though they offered me feedback, I pretty much disregarded it, having heard who they hired.

Sure it's a nice enough company mind, people seemed friendly, but then I guess they always do.

VJW

Narrow Runway 16th May 2011 12:49

VJW
 
To complain about 200 hour cadets getting employed ahead of you is a bit rich.

You work for Ryanair don't you? Don' t they take 200 hour cadets ahead of EVERYONE ELSE?? And charge £50 for the privilege of applying?

How many hours did you have when Ryanair took you on?

I'd accept BACF feedback if I were you. It may have some interesting points on your invincible superiority complex.:ugh::ugh:

VJW 17th May 2011 08:09

Please re read my post you clearly read what you wanted to hear!

I said, 'I don't think there is anything wrong with this at all, in fact it's admirable, just don't tell me it isn't true.'

This isn't about RYR but yes I work for them, that's not hard to tell by the fact I happily admit to it in previous posts. Do RYR hide the fact they're only looking for cadets on their website? Doesn't it make it obvious enough with, 'Cadets – (No airline experience) - Please note we are not accepting applications for Non 737 Rated Captains or experienced First Officers at this time.'

Like I said, it is my bitter opinion, but what use is feedback, when you find out they weren't really interested anyway? This is my opinion having been there, and how I felt afterwards. Had you been there you may have felt the same. If you work there you'll know what I'm saying is the truth, and I'm not in fact suffering from a invincible superiority complex, and if neither applies to you, perhaps you have no need to comment. :rolleyes:

Oh and to be working for or previously working at Virgin, and complaining about cadets getting in at RYR, isn't that also a bit rich?

Narrow Runway 17th May 2011 08:36

What has working at Virgin got to do with cadets? And why is it rich?

Virgin is an airline that only hires experienced pilots. They don't claim anything else.

Your logic is scrambled.

VJW 17th May 2011 08:45

You reply to the one line in my thread that has the least relevance to the argument, and blanket my whole reply as being scrambled logic. Sorry you lose!

Virgin and RYR employ experienced pilots and cadets respectively, they don't hide it. The point I'm making, is it is my opinion the BACF prefer cadets, but don't say it. On my day the only cadets there were from FTE, I didn't see one modular guy or anyone from a different integrated school. The FTE guys didn't even apply, they were recommend by FTE. This is a forum, I went to the interview, read between the lines and gave what I admit to be a bitter opinion. Sorry, I can't make that any clearer.

Narrow Runway 17th May 2011 09:02

How many hours did you have when RYR took you on? Seemed a good deal at the time didn't it?

Now, you realise the industry you've joined doesn't give a toss about progression, just the bottom line.

And now you're trapped in the hell that is RYR. To paraphrase you: you lose!

VJW 17th May 2011 09:06

Since when is joining BACF from RYR progression. I didn't see it that way, which is why I said I went for the interview experience.

I shan't reply again, there's only so many times I can have a discussion with someone who continues to miss the point.

Narrow Runway 17th May 2011 09:23

If you weren't bothered about it, why complain about the injustice levelled against you!!

I don't understand you, or the points you make. I'll be honest, I really don't. You are rambling like a drunk.

If it was for the interview experience, then fine. But don't complain about it afterwards, just take the feedback and move on.

Your posts (which are frequent) smack of a spoilt child.

towser 17th May 2011 10:06

VJW. I do work for BACF and can state that what you say is not true. If we werent interested in experienced crew why would we waste our time and money interviewing you? I'm sorry you left the interview feeling that way but I think your in the minority in that respect. And no I didn't interview you but I might have done some of you training if you had been successful .

gilbertmchris 17th May 2011 10:53

From my perspective there were equal numbers of experienced FOs and Cadets throughout the interview process and then selected for the job.

FOs hours ranged from 1000 hours multi crew to 2600, the range of experience for captains was massive also.

I don't think at any time the fact that cadets were being recruited was hidden, as the recruitment was for fleet expansion then it makes perfect sense to recruit a wide range of experience. Why recruit only experienced FOs who might only feel way down the seniority list, years from command at the point they feel ready for it.
Having people who won't leave for 4 years and are keen to build hours and loyalty to an airline, compared to someone looking for a fast track or just jet time on the way to their next job is forward thinking.

Flatspin Fumble 17th May 2011 12:46

VJW

I don't work for BACF, but I know a lot who do and I agree completely with Tower's post above.

Not sure why I am wasting time on here, perhaps 2 days of block standby has some bearing on it.

VJW 17th May 2011 20:52

Ok last time.

I'm more then happy a decent airline recruits cadets properly, BACF is a fantastic opportunity for them. Employing cadets didn't surprise me, what surprised me is that the only cadets there were from FTE who were recommended by the school. I didn't see any modular guys there or integrated guys from other schools. I just found it strange that of the 6 FO jobs going at least 4 were filled with guys from FTE. Am I really that unclear??

I'm not complaining on the injustice to me, I just giving my opinion on what I learnt after the day. Take it or leave it, don't need to insult me for it.

DeltaSierra2804 18th May 2011 10:44

Does anyone know what is the roster ? How many days On-OFF ?

Thanks.

Gentle Climb 18th May 2011 10:49

It wasn't me, (sadly) but I am fairly confident that there was at least one candidate from another fairly high profile integrated course. I don't know if he got the job though.

RJ100 18th May 2011 18:15

In answer to a question/comment ealier ...... Yes there is a "Hidden Agenda" with the towers at BACF.

Most of those that were hired were low time cadets and a few were experienced FO's.

Days on/off vary from week to week. Mostly 5-6 on followed by typically 2 off. From July any days on over 5 will attract 3 days off. You can and do get 5 on/1 off/5 on 2 off. Happens almost every month.

RJ.

clunk1001 19th May 2011 07:56

I echo Burger81's question...The application clearly states current MPA on licence and 1000 hours minimum. So at the moment I assume they are NOT looking at 250hr cadets...or am I wrong? Are cadets being taken in the back door (pun intended) :}

RJ100 19th May 2011 17:19

Have faith, There will shortly be a need for more FO's. I have flown with 4 in the past two weeks who have job offers. One more has recently handed in his notice. Several Capt are also testing the waters.

As for what the company are looking for... I don't think they even know. This company is now run on the trusted motto of "If the Face Fits"

RJ.

ALTSEL 19th May 2011 19:59

The airline is as much a Knob operation now as it was when it was run from Manchester years ago...............it will be shafted by BA again as it was in the past...........people do not learn from history.shame.

windypops 20th May 2011 04:01

As a subsidiary of BA, how easy/difficult is it to move from BA CityFlyer to BA mainline?

Are you treated like a complete outsider or is it seen as internal movement?

Thanks


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