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Sammetje 22nd June 2011 14:10

For me PFO as well 2 weeks after the interview, by letter... 800 on the bus 1000tt

Superpilot 23rd June 2011 09:11

Applied December still no PFO!

Deep and fast 24th June 2011 09:33

Got a PFO as well 3500T, 2000 medium jet. Just as well I don't need it now :)

McNulty 24th June 2011 11:05

Pfo

1700 b737, 2000 tt.

stuckgear 24th June 2011 11:38

Applied Dec, got PFO this week.

airbuddy 24th June 2011 15:17

What does pfo stand for??
thanx

skyways1452 24th June 2011 15:38

Curiously, the DEFO ad on the ALT site was replaced by a listing for a:

Manpower Planning Analyst

in the last few days. Interesting.

Sammetje 24th June 2011 16:04

please **** off!!!!!!

kumbaya 24th June 2011 16:27

Got it as well, PFO !
For reference, i'm a 'lowtimer' .

Good luck all !

NukeHunt 24th June 2011 17:04

PFO for me too.

Also low houred.

Sammetje 24th June 2011 17:11

Somebody info about the contracts via the brookers for Aer Lingus, maybe this is why they turned down 'everybody'? cheaper solution?

Bombs Away 24th June 2011 21:00

You guys should realise by now that unless your related to someone who works for em you aint got a hope :E

max tanking 25th June 2011 09:15

Bombs away...

With all due respect, you are talking utter rubbish!
I'm sorry if you didn't get the job. Truth is, someone who performed better than you at assessment probably got the call. Harsh, but true.

If you ask me you're better off anyway. Couldn't organise a pish up in a brewery. Going to the dogs this place.

stuckgear 25th June 2011 09:28


Couldn't organise a pish up in a brewery
That's saying something for the Irish !

Superpilot 25th June 2011 21:05


The application form allows for very little distinction and people with almost identical applications have had different outcomes.

Anyone have any ideas?

Yes, there is no way (even in lala land) that Aer Lingus could make an informed choice regarding who to call in for assessments on the basis of that most simple of application forms. This points towards it being nothing more than a HR exercise which would be the best method of hiding the blatant nepotism. Think about it. Ireland being a fairly small country, you'd be daft to think it (looking after your own) doesn't happen.

MCDU2 26th June 2011 09:14


You guys should realise by now that unless your related to someone who works for em you aint got a hope
Whilst having a connection (dad, mum, brother, sister etc) helps get your CV onto the right desk they are certainly in the minority. They still have to jump through the same hoops as everyone else. From the latest batch I would be lucky to fill a hand counting them.

The vast majority of pilots came through the usual sources. Some from integrated others modular, Aer Arran, Ryanair and the Aer Corps etc etc.

Google the chief pilot and read up on how she got into AL if you don't believe me. Absolutely no connections whatsoever and now in the big seat.

max tanking 26th June 2011 09:30

One thing you have to know about the EI HR dept is, they are as incompetent as they come. They dislike the flight crew fraternity, and would probably go out of their way to choose someone because they were not related to a current EI pilot.

I know there have been cases in the past, but they seem to not like to be told who to interview. I myself, do not see any harm in being able to vouch for someone, and let them go through the recruitment process as every other joe.

They will be recruiting again, their are a huge number of guys moving onto pastures new. Just waiting for start dates and the like.

There is no system in place to help them choose whom to interview, apart from the top few forms in front of them at the precise moment in time they are asked to fill interview slots. They have no real comprehension of what a/c types are, or what quality experience is. You will find that the odd one will know of Oxford or Jerez as an approved school, only because they were used by them at one point for cadets. But there is no real understanding of what they should be looking for. I'm not into starting a debate on schools, just trying to highlight that there is no real reason why some were called, and some not.

Good luck to all of those looking for a move to EI, but be under no illusion you will not be working for a legacy carrier. Their are better place to rest your hat.

stuckgear 26th June 2011 15:18


If you didn't make it, it's because someone else was better. Deal with it.


have to agree, and in the current market airlines can pick and choose who they employ and why.

Piloto2011 11th July 2011 21:24

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Interesting. :ugh: :sad:

Love_joy 11th July 2011 21:57

The brick wall smiley sums it up nicely.

They have spent the last 6 months turning really good candidates away for no good reason, and haven't filled all the seats.

End result is they need to bring in contractors. I'd love to know what the current piloting community in EI think of that!?


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