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A320baby 23rd July 2019 07:18

Should be soon

cessnapete 23rd July 2019 22:19


Originally Posted by A320baby (Post 10525687)
Should be soon

Perhaps there will be a slow down in recruitment? Is there a problem with the VS A350? A 340 pilots have been told they will remain on type for longer than envisaged and the retirement of the type further delayed. Delayed A350 delivery? Although BA now seem to be getting their A350 in service a month sooner.

DCT_ELSIR 24th July 2019 11:27

Anyone know if they'll be recruiting Boeing rated people? Thanks.

CABUS 24th July 2019 18:26

Cessna Pete, Im afraid to report 340 pilots haven’t been told that.

all the best. C

cessnapete 24th July 2019 20:59


Originally Posted by CABUS (Post 10527197)
Cessna Pete, Im afraid to report 340 pilots haven’t been told that.

all the best. C

Having dinner with one who’s Manager told him just that!

Riskybis 25th July 2019 09:14


Originally Posted by cessnapete (Post 10527342)


Having dinner with one who’s Manager told him just that!


thats rubbish

Googlebug 25th July 2019 19:44

At a guess your talking about
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/0...medium=ios_app

wouldn’t say it’s much of a delay, there is already a fix

cessnapete 28th July 2019 17:17

No, I’d been told it was a VS cabin configuration problem, possibly requiring rear ballast to be carried on early deliveries.


Rostermouse 29th July 2019 11:24

Ballast is carried on empty A330 and A350 flights (eg delivery flights and positioners) due to limited CG range with no punters or suitcases on board.

BehindBlueEyes 19th August 2019 14:04

Long shot, but anyone recruited by VS as a 737 pilot and retrained on the 787?

2100 hours on type.

Thanks.

SilverFearn 19th August 2019 15:37

Yes, quite a few recently but you're going to need a few more hours.

captain.weird 19th August 2019 17:45


Originally Posted by SilverFearn (Post 10549242)
Yes, quite a few recently but you're going to need a few more hours.

What is the experience of the most junior/least experienced guy on the 78 fleet then?

BehindBlueEyes 19th August 2019 17:54


Originally Posted by captain.weird (Post 10549331)
What is the experience of the most junior/least experienced guy on the 78 fleet then?

Good question - thanks. Interested person here is 23 years old, flying 737s for nearly 4 years in LoCo and as said before, 2100 hours to date although it sounds as though current hours are going to be an issue. Now keen to expand experience on Boeing to long haul and 787.

zero/zero 19th August 2019 19:33


Originally Posted by captain.weird (Post 10549331)
What is the experience of the most junior/least experienced guy on the 78 fleet then?

Think he’s alluding to the fact that the minimum requirements on the advertisement is 2500. There are people that get in with the minimum requirement and plenty that have a lot more. They/we get enough applicants that you’d have to be very lucky to get in with less than the advertised minimums

flyboy146 23rd August 2019 11:40

Unfortunately the current application requires 787/777 experience. Unsurprising but dissapointing for many as the last round of 787 recruitment allowed 737 experience.

BehindBlueEyes 23rd August 2019 21:13


Originally Posted by flyboy146 (Post 10552395)
Unfortunately the current application requires 787/777 experience. Unsurprising but dissapointing for many as the last round of 787 recruitment allowed 737 experience.


I thought that might be the case. Thanks.

Fingers crossed for the future that VS might start looking again at 737 experience.

Chezzy 23rd August 2019 22:43

From quite a reliable source, in mid 2020, 50-75% of recruitment will need Q400 hours!!!!!

flyboy146 25th August 2019 06:50


Originally Posted by BehindBlueEyes (Post 10552776)



I thought that might be the case. Thanks.

Fingers crossed for the future that VS might start looking again at 737 experience.

no worries. I hope so too. In all honesty if you find the opportunity to grab a 787 rating with another airline, that would probably be your best way to get into V/S.

bigdaviet 29th August 2019 08:21

If you join now on the Boeing, what would be the time to command roughly?

BleedingOn 29th August 2019 11:49

There’s a lot of retirements at the moment. Time to command is quicker than it has been historically: currently 8-10 years

757_Driver 7th September 2019 13:50

Is there currently a recruitment drive open - I can't find anything on their website?

I'm done with BA and their attitude - a couple of bullying , threatening emails this weekend about the implications of striking have pushed me over the fence that I was sitting on anyway!


RexBanner 7th September 2019 13:57

Hear hear. Wish I’d gone three years ago..

cessnapete 7th September 2019 16:01

Slight Thread drift. Apparently VS new A350 needs 5000kgs aft ballast to counter an overweight Upper Class fit. Seems a huge dead weight in these fuel conscious times?

A320baby 7th September 2019 16:54

CP what’s with the constant Virgin bashing? Ballast used when ferrying the plane as we use with the 330/340. Non event!

VA_RHS 7th September 2019 20:49

Apologies if it's already been asked but gone through quite a lot of the thread, and done some google research, and couldn't find it; Are the new A350 deliveries going to be crewed by the ex 74 guys or is future Airbus hiring expected?

320 typed but a touch short on hours. Should be there Q2 next year.

Hiring process still just an interview or the whole CRM group exercise and electronic testing rigmarole?

Company medical like Nigel or just straight in off the back of your C1?

What sort of transfer list wait is expected/experienced for MAN? Hypothetically MAN based on the 350/330neos as I understood would (could!) be based there following 74 retirement must be one of the best gigs in the country.

Does the private health care ask questions or demand records disclosures on joining? I know this is a huge bone of contention with the crews of my airline looking into signing up to it, along the lines of group private med is better and cheaper than individual private provided by the company as there's no pre-existing declaration malarky.

Cheers.

Rostermouse 9th September 2019 17:05

cessnapete you asked the same thing in July a few pages back, and got told the same answer. Axe to grind?

VA_RHS: Fleet is based on seniority, though the 350 EIS has jumped a few pilots stuck on the 340 temporarily, and the 78 issues have dragged out the 340's retirement slightly. All pilots new to the Airbus or VAA fly the 330 first then do the 350 course after min hours/time in seat. So I expect some 744 folks will end up on the 'bus but equally lots will end up on the 78. Not for a couple of years though.

Hiring process straightforward but there is lot of competition, and the recruitment window never needs to stay open for long before they get the people they need. All the requirements will be detailed in the recruitment info when it is next posted. I wouldn't put 100% faith in the 'recruitment is now open' email working, just keep checking the website. Not having the hours will likely be a handicap I'm afraid, but your never know.

757_D & Rex, sorry you've come to your conclusion about BA/VS just slightly too late this time, but if you know anyone on the inside who might put a good word in it's always worth trying the recommend-a-friend route. Good luck!

yap800 9th September 2019 21:11

Anyone currently working for them happy to share their approximate salaries and rosters etc?

Riskybis 10th September 2019 00:40


Originally Posted by yap800 (Post 10565987)
Anyone currently working for them happy to share their approximate salaries and rosters etc?

Been in for 1.5 years (ex BA) , I’m on the 2nd year FO payscale £80298 , which gives me roughly £4300 take home pay with full pension contribution, my allowances are around £400 left after spending (that’s not holding back that much either)
work wise I’m on the 787 so do 3 max 4 trips per month . Mainly west coast with the odd JNB . Far East is quite a senior trip but I don’t mind not going

SilverFearn 19th September 2019 10:48

Requirements now reduced

The Range 20th September 2019 08:28

Massive expansion could come

​​​​​​https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...panded-460907/

The Range 20th September 2019 08:31

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...antics-460957/

Akrapovic 20th September 2019 09:13


Originally Posted by The Range (Post 10574302)
Massive expansion could come

​​​​​​https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...panded-460907/

Pipe dream

BleedingOn 20th September 2019 12:05

Yes. Based on VS getting ALL the slots they want after LHR expansion

5strypes 20th September 2019 19:08

Is the UK issue ATPL/medical a barrier? Currently Irish issue but could be converted.

corporaljones 21st September 2019 14:19

Hi all,

sorry for the long list of questions in advance. I’m in a good LH job at the moment but facing a long wait for command (I have no interest in a SH command as LH suits my life far better) and have always been interested in VS.

1) roughly what’s the current time frame to command? Is it fleet dependent or can you move fleets iaw seniority for promotion ?
2) what’s the down route atmosphere like, are people generally up for doing stuff? I’m current LH and do enjoy heading out and doing things
3) what’s the flight deck atmosphere like, is there a pretty flat gradient?
4) how many days off do you get after a trip?
5) how does bidding for trips work and is it as seniority driven as BA?
6) Are most of the trips bullets or do you get a few days?

just trying to weigh up my options,DMs welcome

thanks


Blinkz 21st September 2019 14:35


Originally Posted by 5strypes (Post 10574728)
Is the UK issue ATPL/medical a barrier? Currently Irish issue but could be converted.

Nope, you just convert it to UK before you start.

Googlebug 21st September 2019 16:28


Originally Posted by SilverFearn (Post 10573562)
Requirements now reduced

with reduced terms from what I hear. B scale contract.

Rhodes13 21st September 2019 18:02

No B Scale... yet. Company would like one but have been told to take a walk as its a non starter.

Paperplanes89 22nd September 2019 09:14

Can I add to Corporaljones' questions please...

7.) Is it possible to change fleets e.g. Airbus to Boeing?
8.) Are Virgin's financials about as good as they've ever been (Delta backing, expansion etc)
9.) Any ideas about part time working options?
10.) Is much time spent travelling within U.K. e.g. Up to Edi for a charter flight etc.
11.) Already asked before but important to know, do you get a nice couple of days downroute (esp. West Coast and Caribbean)

Thanks everyone. Another one looking at leaving BA as current atmosphere stinks.

BleedingOn 22nd September 2019 13:38




1) Around 9 years currently. Some fleet transfers but generally command on type. No particular advantage in terms of command in switching fleets.
2) Reasonable social depending on destination. It’s rare that you’re Billy No-Mates.
3) Generally open atmosphere. As most join with quite a bit of experience, it’s assumed you know your job and you’re respected for that.
4) minimum 2 days off after a short trip (3 day block of work), 3 after something longer.
5) Can request up to 2 trips per month. Pilots are in one of three groups which rotate month by month so even if you’re the most junior, every third month your group will be top bid group so therefore effectively in the top third of seniority,
6) If the block time is on average more than 10 hours outbound then you get minimum 2 local nights downroute.


7) No real process for fleet change until new aircraft types come in: you’ll be matched on joining depending on your experience and where the need is.
8) Feeling is that VS is probably in the best financial position it’s been in for some time, but you never know the whole truth!
9) Part time is currently being rejigged so no comment
10) Depends on fleet but there is a bit of that. Mitigated by some of those trips requested by people who live nearby
11) See 6


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