Well if

- it floats you're boat &
- you have a 787 rating &
- you think you will meet the standard

have a pop !!!

BigBad I'll think you'll find he did have a 'pop' a couple of years ago and is still floating around the holdpool like quite a few of us!

For the life of me I don't know why they just didn't pull the plug on that pool. 20 guys were in there and after 6 months VS decided they didn't want for whatever reason. There can't be any of them left surely. Of the ones I know, they all got other jobs, withdrew their interest or both. Since then they've hired a load of 787 Deps thus knocking potential commands back by at least 2 years. They're about to hire more type rated guys. Not a great way to treat people... Even if there are only a few of them left :sad:

How does "hiring a load of 787 Deps" knock back potential commands by 2 years?

It knocks back any commands the hold pool would've got going forward as the rated 787 guys will be above them on the seniority list.

Its pie in the sky until you're on the seniority list.

Absolutely! :)

That was my point. Even the order of selection from a hold pool can have a significant effect on time to command. Pushing rated DEPs in front makes it worse.. Not that HR departments care these days anyway.

Why would they, as a swimmer you aren't an employee yet.

I'm 777 rated and my application went in on 27th December. Not heard a dicky bird yet.

I'm 777 too. Had an email saying they only want 78 rated for now.

They have pushed back the closing date again... Could have done the type rating by now... How long until they bite the bullet and look at recruiting NTR people I wonder, even if they promote internally and offer NTR to other types...

Notwithstanding everyone's enthusiasm and availability to start tomorrow, the fact remains, as explained a couple of times now, that there physically isn't the spare capacity in the training system to train NTR newcomers AND internal fleet transfers. The queue for internal transfers is rather long at the moment.

Training of new crews continues from internal sources whilst the recruitment is to augment the line numbers with minimal training burden. The next step I imagine, if not enough 787 rated people were to come forward, would be to take on 777 rated people for whom a relatively quick CCQ would be a easier win than a full rating course. In that instance, one could perhaps get 4 or 5 CCQs done for the "price of" one or two new full TRs.

I've been in the holding pool for Virgin since February 1992.

I am guessing they have changed their requirements since then. :)

Hi guys,

I've done a search and found a few rosters along the way, some dated and some more recent. However, is there anyone who could shed light on an A330 roster for a typical month? PM also works if you prefer.

Sample A330 F/O last month, 5 atlantic crossings and a sim.

A 330 F/O last month. 5 Atlantic crossings and a sim. Reportedly quite a few reported sick due fatigue.

Can anybody confirm the above?

What would that leave days off per month at (excluding leave)

Just looking at the Master Roster for April.

Five trips isn't usual although there are a few lines like that. Keep in mind that with a 750 hour contract that work rate can't be sustained long-term.

The workload at the Manchester base looks to be lighter than in London.

:rolleyes:
Or, in fact, not.

With a 750 hour contract you are going to be flying quite a few transatlantic trips monthly in this airplane:

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2016-03/24/virgin-supersonic-travel

OT:

@Iver

Let's wait till it really flies. The Concorde was a pure prestige project and never made money. The reason why only 2 state supported carriers(at that time) had this aircraft and nobody else.

And as long as the "boom" issue ;-) is not solved it will just cross the atlantic and nothing else. Exciting.

If it once flies an interesting little toy. And if the Supersonic sound issue is solved maybe an option for some Global Express/Dassault/Gulfstream customers.

So any A330 example rosters guys and girls? :)

Isn't it acceptable to report fatigued when fatigued at VS?

It is, I think that is just a turn of phrase being used.

PFO from VS. 800 hours B777. 5500 hours total time (most of it B737).

Prisoner - was this recently? I've not heard anything for a while!

8th March PFO. I applied just after Christmas 2015 (around 27th Dec I think)

Has anyone been through the process recently?

Pm's are very welcome

What are the future prospects for external Airbus bods at the moment, guys and girls?

There was a hold pool for Airbus for the past 2 years or so. Some of those guys have been offered a short notice 330 course starting at the beginning of July. No idea if that's the pool cleared out or not. I know a few were offered BA and went there instead. id guess at the pool being empty now but it's just a guess. Perhaps they'll hire into that pool again.

It'll be news to a few of us if the pool is now empty.
Although to be fair it's news also that there's finally been some movement

Just to second the other comment, anyone got any A330 roster examples?

They asked for short notice availability for bus drivers, e-mail returned and nothing heard again.

So would be surprised if the pool was now empty.....

How long have people been swimming for?

Applied last winter and got the 'we want 787 people, but will keep you on file.

Not heard anything since.

Did they take many short notice airbus drivers?

Hi guys/girls just a few questions on the company I know they are not currently recruiting however...

1. They implied they might need Airbus drivers in the coming future any more word on the street?

2. The pay on prune seems very high for a basic....does it include sector pay and is there an incremental pay scale? Trying to work out a take home PP1.

3. I was always told to 'stay away' by people who were made redundant, but this was a long time ago...when we're the last guys made redundant and does it feel like a stable airline?

Many thanks

Yes, hold pool is more or less empty so I believe

Circa £3900 ish take home inc sector pay 750hrs per yr (iirc been a few years now). Good pension after 6 months and benefits, no pay to fly, just a 3 yr bond

Very different management, part of delta really, feels like a proper carrier with a a plan verses what happened to us in the noughties.

No major complaints, usual grumbles but hey nowhere is perfect. Would I join now knowing what I know, absolutely!

Does the circa 3900 include all allowances? Also how much a year does the pay go up by on the scales?

Just interested. Thanks.

Sangiovese thanks for the info just what I was looking for.

Yes thanks..... All we need now is some recruitment!